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re: Its very odd to me that you guys want to make changes and win games this year.

Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:51 pm to
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It appears there's no QB in the draft that will come in and light up the league day 1
The point I'm trying to make is that if your team needs a QB, you can't wait until you're sure there will be a QB "that will come in and light up the league." If you do that, you don't draft Josh Allen, or Lamar Jackson, or Justin Herbert, or Ben Roethlisberger, or Drew Brees, or whoever. Even if you do wait, you might end up with Trevor Lawrence, who everyone thought was a sure thing for 3 years before he was drafted.

That being said, I'd love it if Shough plays after the bye and looks awesome. If he doesn't and the Saints feel like the rest of their team is so bad they need to wait on drafting a QB... OK, fine, draft an edge or whatever, but if they win 7-8 games the next season with average QB play they will have significantly less QB options (and still no "sure thing") in the next draft.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28209 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:08 pm to
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We need a legitimate QB


We need players. The current roster is a disaster.

Saints will probably have the #2 pic (the Jest are really bad) and somebody will covet that pick, make them pay for it. If you can pick up four? decent picks instead of QB that may or may not work out why not. 10 or 11 new players through the draft is exactly what we need.

Rattler makes some mistakes but I'd bet the coaches are pleased overall with his play. He is playing pretty well with dogshit around him I suspect he would be better with better weapons.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:07 pm to
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Saints will probably have the #2 pic (the Jest are really bad) and somebody will covet that pick, make them pay for it. If you can pick up four? decent picks instead of QB that may or may not work out why not. 10 or 11 new players through the draft is exactly what we need.
The only offers I'd take for the #2 pick would have to include an additional first round pick the following year (like the Browns got when they moved from 2 to 5 in the draft this year). No matter how many other players we get in this draft, we'll likely still need a QB in the next. There is no sustained success in the NFL without a great QB.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28209 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:13 pm to
The staff likes Rattler. It would have to a lead pipe cinch QB at 2 and I'm not seeing that.

Agree on a high price for the pick.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:11 pm to
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The staff likes Rattler.
Sure, when the only alternative is rookie Shough. I guarantee there will be a name or two in the 1st round they like more at QB. The only thing that keeps us from drafting one in this draft is winning too many games, or Tyler Shough looking really good after the bye.
Posted by TigerSaurus
Member since Apr 2024
2480 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:45 pm to

Nope…..

Keep the Rattler train geauxing through the whole year.

We want the #1 Overall Pick
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
5103 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:41 pm to
How is it not a wasted pick if your 2nd round pick doesn't see the field?
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9892 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:49 pm to
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How is it not a wasted pick if your 2nd round pick doesn't see the field?


Because he can play next year? We have 3 coaches that work with QBs. If they were in a rush to put Shough out there, he'd be playing. We don't NEED to see him play this year. If Moore thinks week 18 is enough to start him, I'm fine with it.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2591 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:27 am to
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Don't project your stupidity onto the rest of us.


Well this aged well, didn’t it? lolololo

Catch the latest NBA news and tell me again how smart it is to “tank” a season. That’s a serious federal crime to commit over a chance at an unnamed and unproven rookie.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
2231 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:40 am to
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Well this aged well, didn’t it? lolololo

Catch the latest NBA news and tell me again how smart it is to “tank” a season. That’s a serious federal crime to commit over a chance at an unnamed and unproven rookie.
OK, ignore the fact that my post said the players and coaches should try their hardest. What on earth does tanking for draft position have to do with this gambling scandal? Are you mental? NBA teams tank for lottery position every year. They even have a name for it now: "the process". This gambling thing going on has nothing to do with anything like that. You really are weird.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69298 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:39 am to
I want to win always. I want to win every game. I hate losing.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2591 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:04 am to
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OK, ignore the fact that my post said the players and coaches should try their hardest. What on earth does tanking for draft position have to do with this gambling scandal? Are you mental? NBA teams tank for lottery position every year. They even have a name for it now: "the process". This gambling thing going on has nothing to do with anything like that. You really are weird.


Why is it unsurprising that this goes over your head? Anyone who advocates for tanking so the Saints get first dibs on an as of yet unknown rookie can’t be that bright to begin with, so your failure to grasp what I’m saying doesn’t likely surprise anyone.

Maybe go see if your mommy as made you a mid-morning snack and turned on the cartoons for you.
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