re: I'm amazed at the seeming apathy towards Marshon Lattimore

Nvm. Saw the link.

I don't necessarily disagree so much with what he said, but I do disagree he has a long way to go.

And while yes we will have to monitor his hammies, the issue did go away last year.

Also just like espn to show mostly bad film on the kid. He gave up 1 td and 7 catches all year and they pretty much showed all of those. They maybe showed 1 int.

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It absolutely can. Ever heard of a coverage sack? Jordan could have had several more sacks last year if the secondary was worth a damn. We already have 3 first rounders on our dline. We needed to improve the secondary.

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This. They go hand in hand. You cant have one without the other and have a good defense. In todays game, if you dont have a good secondary, you dont have shite.

Not really....
We have three outstanding defensive lineman....
We are missing the edge rusher opposite Cam Jordan....
Yes, coverage sacks do happen....
But you can have 4 Deon Sanders in your secondary, and with no pass rush, the top 15 QB's will light you up

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Pretty much everybody wanted a pass rusher early until we didn't get a pass rusher early.

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I may have been one of the few people who did NOT think rush end was the top need. Imo, and why I was one of the biggest proponents of getting Butler, is because we literally have one guy who could be a #1 CB and he has been dinged up.

We need that surefire #1 or it won't matter who is rushing the passer. If you have two weaker corners, as we did in 2014 and last year, they get picked apart by quick passes all game and the pass rush has no time to get home. In 2014 we gave up by far the most yards to backs also, and I believe we were at or near the top again last year.

Yes the quick passes to backs are more of a LB/scheme issue, but the main point is that our Dline consistently had no time to get home.

Hell I probably had cover LB as close to the same level of need as rush end, despite who we added in FA.

But I also realized we had Kikaha coming back and Oakafor can make some plays too.

We'll have to wait to see how this year plays out, but I believe rush end and cover LB will be our biggest defensive needs again, but not because we lack good players there. It's because we lack top end players there. Having one real impact player at each position (CB, S, LB, DE) will have a huge ripple effect.

Someone linked it, thanks.

Yes....we now have several guys to plug in and rotate...
I'm hearing good things about Hendrickson
We know what Okafor can do
And hopefully Kikaha will be healthy
Don't misunderstand....I love our draft!

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even if it was Myles Garrett

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I'm a very optimistic person, bit honestly I have poked holes in Garrett, raking up over half his sacks against players that aren't nfl bound.

That said I still think he's talented and he'll do well. I just question if in the end he'll wind up the best DE in this draft.

I agree, but we could have...
Hopefully this will all work out.
I think this is the best offseason and draft we have had since the Super Bowl ....
Maybe best under spayton

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1) Lattimore is not even close to Patrick Peterson

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Link? Stats to back this up? How can you be so sure?

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2) Pass rush improves your secondary....secondary doesn't improve your pass rush

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Absolute fricking bullshite. As another poster and I pointed out, half a second better coverage turns hits into sacks. We were 4th in hits.

I said this in 2014 and again last year, if you give the rush under 3 seconds to get home almost every play then you aren't going to get many sacks no matter who you have.

Coverage absofrickinglutely affects pass rush. They work hand in hand.