I cant wait for the NFL to not do anything

Thanks for the link.

Yep..we've already seen as much with the vikings and T suggs admitting to it in Baltimore

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The only issue they'd have is that he said "bouty".

He said for the first one to make a big play which is not the same as trying to hurt people.

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It’s still illegal

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It’s still illegal

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And i have no problem with them punishing the Saints. What i do find egregious is letting everyone else fricking do it

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I guess $10k for anyone who knocks out Favre isn't trying to hurt people.

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You have proof of this that wasn’t written on a napkin by a disgruntled former employee?

They were partying in the locker room with no masks and I never heard anyone say shite. Frick the league.

Its the same fricking thing. They’re paying out bets based on performance. The league launched an investigation on our entire organization that resulted in 3 coaches being suspended for 8+ games. (FYI outside of bounty gate a coach has never been suspended for even 1 game)

To this day, the only “evidence” of an actual bounty program: 1) Hearsay from a former shithead disgruntled employee (He was literally fired from the Saints because he was making up family members having serious illnesses and other wild bullshite to miss work/games. This is Goddell’s star witness.) 2) Colorful football-talk language from a coach during a player meeting. (Not saying Greg Williams isnt a piece of shite, but there is no evidence of a bounty program from what he said) 3) Greg Williams admission AFTER he was blackmailed by Godell who would not have let him coach in the NFL again if he did not admit guilt. To this day no other coach or player has admitted a bounty program existed. They all maintained that it was pay for performance. (Payouts based on good plays/exactly what Devin White describes)

Bountygate was a nothing burger that resulted in us losing multiple players, coaches, and draft picks for something every team in the NFL was doing.

People love to bring up Favre and Warner in the playoffs. It’s like people just forget how violent the NFL was prior to this decade. Zero regard for player safety.

The Saints from 2009-2011 (Years in which bounty gate supposedly existed) had the second least amount of personal foul penalties in the NFL. Warner and Favre got the shite knocked out of them in the playoffs but it wasnt anything that wasnt already being done in the NFL at that time. QBs were just not protected the way they are now.

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If it's just between these two players and not a team thing, I don't see how it would be. This is the players basically making a friendly wager amongst themselves, so while I know Saints fans want to complain, this is not the same thing as a big system the Saints defenders had in place as a large group and with the DC involved.

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Give me a fricking break

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I'm not attorney but I've been part of over 100 events of litigation and I do know that wording is what makes the difference between "perfectly ok - legal", and "wrong -illegal".

The NFL Constitution and By-Laws gets a little tedious to read but it seems there is quite a difference in what is defined as constituting the Saints' bounty violation, payments offered to players by a team not covered in the salary cap, individual players wagering on games / betting / gambling laws, and two players on the same team with a mutual wager based on a personal performance competition. I can't find anything that could even suggest this is a violation.

I personally see a huge difference between team bounties and a personal competition, then what is moat important, what a judgment is ultimately ruled on as "the spirit of the law".. .. or the purpose for which that law was written. Rules/laws are seldom arbitrary, there is usually a "tort" or a damaging offense that made it necessary to prevent. Not sure I see one in the making with White / David.

We can say "slippery slope" like the libs w/gun ownership... but still just doesn't make someone a killer. If someone can point out the rule or obvious need for trying this as a violation, I'll listen. Just don't see anything similar... but again, I'm no attorney.

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Saints/LSU fans have a victim mentality for sure but it does not even remotely compare to the little bitch mentality that the Viking fanbase has towards Bountygate.

Players were playing football and tackling their QB too hard and that somehow is some huge fricking scandal that robbed them of a superbowl. Give me a break. Would have just been 0-5 instead of 0-4 anyway.

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Like to some degree i get it. Multiple high low hits not called. But for fricks sake they also had 6 turnovers.