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Hue Jackson just admitted to tanking games

Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15552 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:24 pm


If there’s a top prospect why the hell wouldn’t you
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1927 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:29 pm to
One year we had Jason David as CB. Was we tanking too?
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5225 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:31 pm to
So can we now all agree the NFL is rigged?

Another “conspiracy theory” proven true.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17019 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:39 pm to
Hue Jackson is the worst HC in the history of the NFL, and it is not debatable.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3730 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:41 pm to
Owner is the owner, leave if you don’t like it.you were paid really well to listen.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61265 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:41 pm to
I would like to reveal that the owners of this board paid me to make bad posts.
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:42 pm to
Big difference in tanking games and a "rigged" NFL.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:44 pm to
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Hue Jackson is the worst HC in the history of the NFL, and it is not debatable.


Bill Peterson and Rod Rust would like to debate.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17019 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:48 pm to
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Bill Peterson and Rod Rust would like to debate


List their career W-L records as HC.

Then compare them to Hue.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
UNO Fan
Member since Nov 2018
4167 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:55 pm to
So they tanked for Baker?
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 6:59 pm to
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If there’s a top prospect why the hell wouldn’t you


What if the owner is so out of his element that he only targets the shittiest prospects each draft?

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In 2014, the war room was packed with Haslam's guests. It was a consequential draft. The Browns were looking to pick a quarterback, either Blake Bortles or Johnny Manziel in the first round, or Teddy Bridgewater or Derek Carr in the second. Farmer was running his first draft. He had a lot to work with: 10 total picks, including an extra first-rounder because of the Richardson trade.


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He started the draft by trading down, from No. 4 to No. 9, then traded up to No. 8 to pick Pettine's preferred player, Oklahoma State cornerback Justin Gilbert. With the second first-round pick, Farmer was targeting Oregon State receiver Brandin Cooks. But then Manziel started to slide and Haslam wanted Manziel. Some of the football guys in the room wanted to wait and pick Bridgewater in the second round. But the team had soured on Bridgewater after his interview dinner and workout with team brass; something about Bridgewater's handshake rubbed Haslam the wrong way, he told team executives. Manziel texted Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains during the draft, begging the team to pick him, and Loggains forwarded the texts to Haslam. Farmer knew whom the owner wanted, so he made a decision that felt like a concession and traded up to draft him, despite significant concerns about Manziel's skill set and hard partying at Texas A&M. Haslam celebrated, but those in the room could tell Farmer was frustrated. After months of planning, he'd given away his two first-rounders to his coach and owner.


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Browns draft: team leaders on different pages and bad decisions leading to more bad decisions -- both Gilbert and Manziel would flame out -- with the owner in the middle of it all and his guests as a live audience.


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THE BROWNS ADOPTED a plan to lose and then warred over whether the team lost too much. The front office felt the team would win four or five games in 2016; some coaches felt it could even be seven or eight. The team went 1-15, and the lines were drawn. Jackson's survival instincts kicked in; he fired much of his staff and vented to co-workers and privately to reporters about analytics. The Browns had the first pick in the 2017 draft, and it would be another defining moment for the franchise. 


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Now there was debate between targeting Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett and North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky. Jackson wanted Garrett and one day made his case by taping pictures of Garrett on the glass walls in Haslam's office as a joke. But Jackson wasn't kidding when he later vowed to Haslam that he wouldn't support Trubisky, publicly or privately. The team ended up deciding in favor of Garrett but kept Jackson in the dark about it until shortly before the draft, for reasons unexplained to him.


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The Browns went 0-16 in 2017, nearly unthinkable in the salary cap era and much worse than even the architects of the rebuilding plan expected. It broke the building. The front office felt Jackson's poor coaching cost the team wins. Jackson felt he was in an impossible position because the team had shed so much talent, including star cornerback Joe Haden. Against the advice of scouts, Brown had picked receiver Corey Coleman in the first round in 2016; Coleman was released after two years. Against the recommendation of Brown, Jackson started rookie quarterback DeShone Kizer in 2017; when Kizer struggled, Jackson complained that Brown had passed on Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. It enraged the front office, given Jackson's insistence on drafting Garrett that year.


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Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:01 pm to
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Owner is the owner


Jimmy Haslem is a POS.

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On April 15, 2013, Haslam was leading a staff meeting at Pilot Flying J headquarters in Tennessee when FBI and IRS agents raided the building. A total of 19 Pilot executives and staffers eventually either pleaded guilty, were given immunity or were convicted of participating in a five-year-long fraud that shortchanged small trucking companies on diesel fuel rebates. The company agreed to pay $85 million in civil settlements and $92 million in criminal penalties. 
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15552 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 7:07 pm to
It’s more of an overarching comment given the hot topic of the week, not specifically who they targeted
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:06 pm to
Integrity?

How can you ask players to buy into you as a leader when you intentionally lose games? You have lost all credibility as a head coach forever the day you do that once.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27211 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 9:38 pm to
Hue is actually admitting to taking the money.

That's bad. Flores turned it down. Hue is a college coach now.
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
542 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 9:48 pm to
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Big difference in tanking games and a "rigged" NFL.


No. The whole league is rigged.

1) The NFL allowed him to say that. It generates views. Even bad publicity is good publicity in this league.

2) Goodell could come out and say it's rigged and some wouldn't believe it.
Posted by Theriot5150
Member since Jan 2014
113 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 10:54 pm to
I wouldn’t be surprised that in every contract it states if talked about, you will get a failed drug test or something to take them out..and prob all their union money....
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
542 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 11:03 pm to
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I wouldn’t be surprised that in every contract it states if talked about, you will get a failed drug test or something to take them out..and prob all their union money....


It's the mob. They don't have to tell them shite. NFL security is like FBI/Cia in every city the NFL has a team. They know who's on drugs, who's dealing, who's gambling, who's is debt etc. Players are easily controlled. The officials are already on the take so they don't matter.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22422 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 12:00 am to
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Was we tanking too?


Was we? The lengths people go to proudly sound illiterate these days.
Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2280 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:57 am to
There's huge difference in not playing 100% to win some games, especially back half of the season when playoffs are out of the picture, and paying a coach to tank. That Owner(s) should be forced to sell, no if/ands/buts about it!
Huge difference in Flores rejecting that offer to tank and going public about it now while he's still involved in the league, and Hue Jackson who sounds like he took the money and only coming out about years later after he's out of the NFL.
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