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Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Dats Who
Down the road
Member since Nov 2012
482 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:39 am to
I'm not Pro Clapp, just anti Bushrod. What has he done to impress you so far. He sucked last year too. He can't play Tackle. I just see him as a liability.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:44 am to
Savage is getting cut. He's terrible. I think we pick up another vet after cuts and just roll with Hill until then. Don't be shocked if Hill plays first after Brees Saturday.

Also, our backup OL are more talented than our WRs after the top 4, so I can't see us keeping someone like TLL to cut Clapp or LeRiebus. Hooman is a classic case of can't make the club if you're in the tub. Don't see Stupar beating out Kikaha at this point.

If you want a "hot take" I wouldn't be surprised if Klein was cut. Probably not, because of the cap hit, but next year for sure.

Quarterbacks(3)
Drew Brees
TBD
Taysom Hill

Running backs(5)
Alvin Kamara
Jonathan Williams
Boston Scott
Zach Line
TBD - Probably Vereen after Week 1.

Wide Receivers(5)
Michael Thomas
Ted Ginn Jr.
Cameron Meredith
Tre’Quan Smith
Brandon Tate

Tight ends(3)
Ben Watson
Josh Hill
Dan Arnold

Offensive line(9)
Ryan Ramczyk
Terron Armstead
Max Unger
Larry Warford
Andrus Peat
Jermom Bushrod
Rick Leonard
Cameron Tom
Josh LeRiebus/Clapp

Defensive line(9)
Cam Jordan
Alex Okafor
Trey Hendrickson
Marcus Davenport
Sheldon Rankins
Tyeler Davison
David Onyemata
Mitchell Loewen
Devaroe Lawrence

Linebackers(6)
Demario Davis
A.J. Klein
Manti Te’o
Alex Anzalone
Craig Robertson
Kikaha

Cornerbacks(6)
Marshon Lattimore
Ken Crawley
Patrick Robinson
Arthur Maulet
Justin Hardee
Natrell Jamerson

Safety(4)
Kurt Coleman
Marcus Williams
Vonn Bell
Chris Banjo

Special Teams(3)
K Wil Lutz
P Thomas Morstead
LS Zach Wood

Practice Squad (10)
Keith Kirkwood
Kamrin Moore
Alex Jenkins
Taylor Stallworth
Deon Yelder
J.T. Barrett
Austin Carr
Al-Quadin Muhammad
??
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 11:46 am
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:47 am to
Bushrod knows the system, is a consummate pro and won't blow assignments. Think of him as a better version of Bryce Harris who always seems to stick around.

Knowing the assignment is almost as important as execution in this offense. Brees gets rid of the ball so fast, you don't have to be great, but if you blow it from the start, there's issues.

Look at the ghost of Jahri Evans two years ago as an example. He was totally washed up but we did ok with him because he knew what to do- just kinda sucked doing it.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18868 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Savage is getting cut. He's terrible. I think we pick up another vet after cuts and just roll with Hill until then. Don't be shocked if Hill plays first after Brees Saturday.


I was surprised we never signed another QB after signing Savage. I hope we snag an upgrade to Savage before the season starts.

I have Hill making the team too. Specials teams play going to keep his arse in the league one more year.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1895 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:58 am to
I mostly think this is accurate.
I don’t see Tommy Lee and Tate on the same roster. I also don’t see Edmunds and Line on the same roster. I think Hooman is cut for one of the young TEs.

I hope JT Barret clears waivers, i want to see him develop.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288099 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

think we pick up another vet after cuts


Few things here

- they handpicked Savage as the guy early in the process

- Savage has looked good in practice by all accounts

- good QBs don’t get cut. Now could a trade help us there? Yea, maybe. Mike Glennon, RG3, who knows. But don’t expect to find someone better than Savage after cuts

- in the wake of a Brees injury, we would most likely explore a trade or bringing in someone like Cutler or McCown. I don’t think we roll with Savage if there is something long term
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:19 pm to
They picked Savage but he's obviously not getting the job done. I haven't read that he's doing good in practice. Maybe better than he has in games but you have to show something in the games and he has only shown that he has zero awareness in the pocket and no ability to push the ball down field.

He looks slightly worse than Grayson and substantially worse than Ryan Griffin. He's not even in the same universe as Daniel or McCown.

They also "picked" washed up Adrian Peterson. They'll admit their mistake soon enough.

Agree that a "good" QB won't get cut. But bad is better than awful and Savage is the worst I've ever seen in the Payton era.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175791 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:21 pm to
I still have like a lot of what i've seen from Hill. Obviously ball control 101 needs to be addressed but he needs to be more Hill back there and take off more, control the clock. Be less Drew where he's trying to make more reads and move the ball with his arm 100%.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31875 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
If savage is good in the film room, that alone will keep him on the team.

People pay attention to the actual on field play too much. There's reason why McCown sticks around as a backup, it's not as much the on field but the fact he's a damn good study for film room and sideline.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I still have like a lot of what i've seen from Hill. Obviously ball control 101 needs to be addressed but he needs to be more Hill back there and take off more, control the clock. Be less Drew where he's trying to make more reads and move the ball with his arm 100%.


I actually agree. If he simply holds on to the ball, he's viewed in a totally different light.

Not even sure the second INT was totally his fault. Self inflicted wounds. He moved the ball mostly when he wasn't fumbling.

Savage meanwhile looks like arse with no upside
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175791 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

There's reason why McCown sticks around as a backup, it's not as much the on field


luke had excellent performances on the field. that is horseshite.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32168 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

I'm becoming more convinced hill and savage will both be cut.

Hill is the Saints best ST player. Lol
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288099 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

They also "picked" washed up Adrian Peterson. They'll admit their mistake soon enough.



Yea but you’re talking about a guy that needs to play(your 2nd RB) vs one that will never play (backup QB).
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:51 pm to
So I'm the lone one that still thinks PJ Williams makes this team? or did I miss something?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288099 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:18 pm to
I think PJ is in
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175791 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:20 pm to
maybe PJ is a trade candidate if we can get something for him.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31875 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

So I'm the lone one that still thinks PJ Williams makes this team? or did I miss something?



Still think he makes it unless someone offers us a pick. He's a solid #4
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Also I don't think Clapp gets through waivers either


He's not. But I don't think Leonard is either. So... since I think Leonard has the higher upside, you have to keep him and congratulate Clapp on his NFL career.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

since I think Leonard has the higher upside


You can't say that on an LSU based board you better duck.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33507 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:22 pm to
Stupar will make it over kikaha.
Why do u think othwrwise.
Solid special teams and actually solid in a spot start.
Love kik but he is in no mans land .
Its gunna suck if they cut him
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