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re: ESPN ranks Top 15 QBs of all time...No Brees lol

Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Brees simply has not won enough games.

It sucks but its true.


As a previous poster said, it all boils down to MVP's and rings.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:36 pm to
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Brees simply has not won enough games. It sucks but its true.


What kind of games are you talking about? He's won more total games than 10 of those guys on that list.

If we are talking about rings, there are 4 on that list that don't have rings.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:37 pm to
Kong
Did you see tarkenton
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1620 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:47 pm to
Struck the wrong key, thanks
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:55 pm to
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When he retires, it's going to be hard not to feel sorry for Drew. A top 10 QB of all time, who never won as much as he should due to front office incompetence, and record-setting shittiness on defense.




He'll go down as one of the greats but I've always felt like he never gets enough credit nationally.

one of the biggest excuses people try and use against him is our "pass happy offense". What a joke. Some of the best QB's of all-time never had a good/consistent run game. Marino, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, etc. So naturally they all pile up massive numbers as well.

but I mean, he'll be a Hall of Famer, a Super Bowl champion/MVP, multiple Pro Bowler, and has earned a boat load of money over the years.

He deserves more credit than he gets, yes, but I wouldn't go as far as to say I'll feel sorry for him either.
Posted by Alleyezon3
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2007
1869 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:58 pm to
Marino has neither
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:03 pm to
Marino #8 on the list in the OP
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

He'll go down as one of the greats but I've always felt like he never gets enough credit nationally.



Its because he does not have an MVP and he has a lot of losing seasons compared to other greats at the position.

Drew has also been first team All Pro only once in his career.

The AP factors in All Pro and MVP's heavily when ranking greatness.
Posted by WhySoSerious
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:00 pm to
He's for sure better than Unitas, Bradshaw, Kelly, Tarkenton, Starr, Staubach, Marino, Favre & Graham. I'd take him over Elway & Manning too.

Brady
Montana
Rodgers
Brees
Young
Manning
Elway
Marino
Then whoever you want.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:02 pm to
John Clayton is the same jackass that does the ESPN promo where he screams to his mother that his segment is not finished.

His NFL injury updates are as insightful as a small child's attempt to explain the reason for crapping their pants.

He is a hack pumping an agenda. His minutes of fame are not worth the price of his, now lost, soul.

Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3397 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Who would you take off?


Honestly I think the position has changed over the last few years.

To me because of this I would seriously have to reevaluate the careers of Bradshaw, Graham and maybe one or two others.

No doubt Bradshaw was a great QB. Did he put the Steelers on his back and carry them to titles? He had a whole lot of help. Fewer teams in the league to spread talent and so other reasons.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17019 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:07 pm to
The only QB's I'd put over Brees are:

Peyton
Brady
Unitas

Brees is Top 5, and its silly to think he's not.

Montana and Bradshaw have no business being in the top 10. Look at their stats (in comparison to Brees) and the defenses they played with and explain to me how either one can hold Brees' jockstrap.
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:40 pm to
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Super Bowl Champion, NFL record holder, first ballot Hall of Famer, millions of dollars, beautiful family, hot wife...

Yes, the man certainly needs our pity for being a failure.

This must be what you tell yourself at night to go to sleep, because the simple fact is that this team has woefully underachieved during Brees' tenure and yes I do have a lot of sympathy for the man seeing how he's tried to carry this inept franchise for the last 11 years
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68185 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

He'll go down as one of the greats but I've always felt like he never gets enough credit nationally.


Three words: Because New Orleans. If Brees played for the Giants he'd be the subject of arguments with Brady, Montana and Manning as to who is the GOAT.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68185 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:10 pm to
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Montana and Bradshaw have no business being in the top 10. Look at their stats (in comparison to Brees) and the defenses they played with and explain to me how either one can hold Brees' jockstrap.


You don't understand how the game has changed over the last thirty years, do you? Do you realize that the rate of interceptions is down more than 50% since 1985? Either the defenses are all crap today or the NFL has made it considerably easier to pass the ball.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22526 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Montana and Bradshaw have no business being in the top 10.

Bradshaw is definitely overrated but why Montana?
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3362 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 7:35 am to
Rodgers does not belong ahead of Brees. I do not understand where and when this myth began
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:38 am to
ESPN hates Drew Brees
Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1509 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:20 am to
Whysoserious,

Serious question, did you watch those guys play?

Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1509 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:21 am to
Also, why would anyone laugh at Kelly? Tarkenton?

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