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Divide the blame between Pete and Derek
Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:52 pm
Before the QB School video yesterday, I was probably 80% Pete, 20% Carr.
Now I'm more like 60/40. Pete is still trash for not playing to your qbs strengths, but Derek is straight up not reading/processing at a starting qb level.
Now I'm more like 60/40. Pete is still trash for not playing to your qbs strengths, but Derek is straight up not reading/processing at a starting qb level.
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Pete is still trash for not playing to your qbs strengths,
What exactly are his strengths? Most of these throws he’s missing are basic throws for an NFL QB. He’s also not seeing wide open receivers
Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
Hard to divide the blame so precisely but yeah its easy to say both are at fault here. Unfortunately, unless Carmichael is fired and Carr all of a sudden starts processing/reading better- not sure how this issue gets resolved.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 12:56 pm to Mushroom1968
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What exactly are his strengths
Hes a good play action qb. We run little to no play action.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:39 pm to whatiknowsofar
I'm ready to say that Carr is a worse QB than both Dalton and Winston.
I think he's gotten away with this for nearly 10 years because he played for the Raiders and because he looks the part and is a fiery competitive guy that you want to root for.
I think he's gotten away with this for nearly 10 years because he played for the Raiders and because he looks the part and is a fiery competitive guy that you want to root for.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:53 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Before the QB School video yesterday, I was probably 80% Pete, 20% Carr.
Now I'm more like 60/40. Pete is still trash for not playing to your qbs strengths, but Derek is straight up not reading/processing at a starting qb level.
There is still a legitimate question as to how much of Carr's poor processing is due to coaching. But yeah, that QB School video was rough.
Carr Is:
- making poor pre-snap reads
- then locking in on that pre-snap read.
- deciding to check down pre-snap
- not going through his progressions
- not anticipating open windows
Either he doesn't know the playbook & concepts or has no trust in the OC, the O-Line, & the WR's. Whatever it is it's bad.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 1:57 pm to MannyG
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Either he doesn't know the playbook & concepts or has no trust in the OC, the O-Line, & the WR's. Whatever it is it's bad.
I think he's a slow processor and is scared to make mistakes. I think he's a bad QB right now and an average QB at best.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 2:16 pm to SirWinston
He has been playing in the league too long to be looking so uncomfortable in this offense. I know the play designs aren't the greatest there's no secret about that but he clearly leaves a lot to be desired more than anyone else.
As far as being a nice guy and someone that you're rooting for that's kind of where I landed with him for a while but I'm running out of nice things to say.
As far as being a nice guy and someone that you're rooting for that's kind of where I landed with him for a while but I'm running out of nice things to say.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 2:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
Pete should have put Taysom Hill in for 1st and goal and had him run the ball with all those timeouts.
Carr didn’t seem interested in coming out the game. Egos needed to be placed aside to do what was necessary to win the fricking game.
Both Pete and DA need to fired for gross incompetence. Get the lasso on Carr. Get the team win.
Carr didn’t seem interested in coming out the game. Egos needed to be placed aside to do what was necessary to win the fricking game.
Both Pete and DA need to fired for gross incompetence. Get the lasso on Carr. Get the team win.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 3:15 pm to whatiknowsofar
No. Assigning percentages is silly.
They both completely suck and deserve plenty of blame
They both completely suck and deserve plenty of blame
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 10/21/23 at 3:49 pm to SirWinston
Carr is playing like a guy who rightfully does not trust his oline
Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:04 pm to whatiknowsofar
68.23358% Pete
Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:35 pm to whatiknowsofar
After watching that video I feel we made a horrible mistake signing Carr.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 4:36 pm to saintsfan22
100% Carmichael because the offense is the exact same amount of terrible through four quarterbacks since Sean left. Winston, Hill, Dalton, and Carr - at no point has the offense looked like a fully functioning offense other than an outlier game here and there. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 5:25 pm to MannyG
Would you trust your OC or O-line up to this point???
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:30 am to DemSaintsDoh
70/30 Carr. Carr is fricking terrible
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:31 pm to whatiknowsofar
Divide the blame between spayton and Loomis
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:51 pm to whatiknowsofar
It's probably 50/50.
Pete definitely doesn't help the qb out but Carr should be playing better.
Something is off the last couple weeks. The wrs are acting weird
Carr is yelling at everyone
Carr actually looked good at the beginning of the year.
Pete definitely doesn't help the qb out but Carr should be playing better.
Something is off the last couple weeks. The wrs are acting weird
Carr is yelling at everyone
Carr actually looked good at the beginning of the year.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:53 pm to MannyG
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Carr Is:
- making poor pre-snap reads
- then locking in on that pre-snap read.
- deciding to check down pre-snap
- not going through his progressions
- not anticipating open windows
Some of this starts happening when you aren't on the same page as your receivers.
And then Pete not helping him out. Carr should be getting a big percentage of the blame but this offensive overall is not right.
Carr is just way to scared and bails foe no reason.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 3:03 pm
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