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re: Cooks is NOT a Running Back

Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:58 am to
Our WRs were below average last year, so another sticking point is we desperately need him to fill WR shoes. I think he might catch more balls than Stills
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:59 am to
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Harvin was a RB coming out of college, though. He ran the ball a lot at Florida



I'm comparing Cooks to Harvin's pro career. I do not think we will use him in the backfield the way Minn did with PH, but I do believe we will line him up as you state here:

quote:

Im sure we will work him in to some gimmicky "run" plays.. reverses, that end around play, etc.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Our WRs were below average last year, so another sticking point is we desperately need him to fill WR shoes. I think he might catch more balls than Stills


if he adjusts very well to the NFL learning curve, i'd really be mildly surprised if he wasn't 2 in catches on our roster behind Jimmy.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Sproles was barely a RB last year.


Well he spent 40% of the plays split out wide or in the slot


The other 60%?
Posted by blueslover
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 am to
I don't think any single player will fill the Sproles role per se. If you watch Cooks highlights tho, you will see he did take a lot of handoffs from close rather than what we generally think of as an end around.

His 2013 OSU running numbers might be a guide:

32 attempts
217 yards
6.8avg
2 TDs

I haven't been in on the "is he more like Cobb or DeSean?" debate but do think we might see something more like Jackson's first 3 years in Philly than Cobb's 16 attempts in his first three years.

DeSean Jackson Rushing first 3 years-

43 attempts
337 yards
7.8 avg
3 TDs

I would be excited to see Cooks have 15-25 carries. This is still in no wise near the 63 carries Sproles had. I don't like boxing any player into a description or role- especially when Sean Payton is designing the plays! Let Brandin Cooks be Brandin Cooks. In three years I want other teams to be looking for or describing prospects as "Cooks-like" the way Jimmy Graham is now thought of now.

On side note, I'm glad the SEC has not succumbed to the gawd awful arena football unis of the Pac 12

Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28032 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:08 am to
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I don't like boxing any player into a description or role- especially when Sean Payton is designing the plays! Let Brandin Cooks be Brandin Cooks



I'm with you on this. I compare him to Harvin only because it fits more accurately than the annoying chromosome lacking Sproles comparisons.
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:15 am to
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Brandin Cooks for ROY
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:19 am to
15-25 carries seems about right to me. Payton will know when to utilize the guy, and he won't be predictable.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:20 am to
another on Cooks... in the draft process I heard him described at least 3-4 times by different analysts as a supercharged Tavon Austin. Not gonna get into the comparison but just that most spoke of him in higher regard than Austin. I dig on that for the valuation aspect. Our #20 is already estimated as higher quality than last year's #8 pick!

Another purer draft discussion, but those are the sort of examples to understand the fluidity of player ratings. Same thing in that many said both of last year's #1 & 2 picks (OT Fisher & Joeckel) could have easily been picked after Matthews #6 or even Lewan #11 this year.

THAT kinda valuation on Cooks is why you make the trade to get him if you can.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:21 am to
That's all good to hear.

Yeah, doctors are more likely to give pills, since that's their training.
But psychotherapy can produce the same results, with more lasting effects without the side-effects.

For anxiety, try asking your therapist about mindfulness.
It's one of my favorite skills, and your therapist might be well-versed in it.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:31 am to
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This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:33 am
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:33 am to
Nice.

But are we married to that nickname?
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

But are we married to that nickname?


I think he is. Hes had it since high school


quote:

Cooks grew up in Stockton, Calif. and went on to become a three-sport start at Lincoln High School, where he also played basketball and competed as a sprinter while earning the nickname of "Sonic Boom."


LINK

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One name that continues to build momentum and ascend on NFL draft boards is Oregon State wide receiver Brandin Cooks. Nicknamed “Sonic Boom” for his explosive speed and game-breaking ability, Cooks showcased his dynamic skill set at the combine in February and made quite the impression on the scouting community.


LINK
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 10:40 am
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
31867 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:34 am to
Funny thing is, Supercharged Brandin Cooks went at 20 and Tavon Austin went at 8. Although cooks combine #s are better as well. Guess that's how deep they consider this WR class.
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Wait....he was actually signed by a team....and expected to start....


And in our division, no less.
Gotta love senile GMs.
Posted by JPLIII
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Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:57 am to
To be honest, I have to agree....Cooks is not a RB. To be honest though, I think people just generally place him in Sproles category because of the skill set the possess. To be honest, wherever SP decides to use him, he's going to be special.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:59 am to
I'm honestly just glad you're so honest about everything you have to say.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:01 am to
Should have seen that coming.

Is the new fat head hanging on your bedroom ceiling yet Meat?

Posted by JPLIII
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Member since Jan 2008
22630 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:08 am to
To be honest, if you watch this Cooks interview, you'll see what's up.

To Be Honest

This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:09 am to
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Is the new fat head hanging on your bedroom ceiling yet Meat?


They dont have one yet but I did order my jersey yesterday
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