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Concern about Meredith's knee was reason for Bears not matching

Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:39 pm
Fwiw

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The only reason to let him walk out the door, then, is substantiated doubt about the knee in which Meredith tore the anterior cruciate ligament and partly tore the medial collateral ligament in August. Pace often references the importance of conviction in personnel decisions, and clearly the Bears have conviction on this.

It would have been relatively cheap for them to ensure Meredith’s comeback attempt occurred in their uniform. They could have tendered him last month at the second-round level for only $1 million more than the no-compensation level of $1.9 million they did.

Only $1 million more could have deterred poachers such as the Saints and eliminated the chance Meredith goes elsewhere and outperforms what the Bears’ medical evaluation indicates he will be capable of.

As the GM of a team in need of offensive playmakers — and one that sits today with $24 million in salary-cap space — Pace has opened himself to scrutiny for not paying extra to avoid that possibility.

Tendering Meredith the low-level qualifying offer, which affords the Bears no compensation for his departure, and subsequently not matching the Saints’ offer sheet broadcasts the Bears’ medical evaluation of a player they otherwise could use and would love to have kept.

In fact, heavy doubt about Meredith’s knee has existed since his surgery. By late October, the Bears concluded they could not use ink to write Meredith’s name in their 2018 plans.

That’s why they approached free agency in March as though anything they received from Meredith this season would be icing on Matt Nagy’s new offensive cake.

Chicago Tribune
Posted by Drillingman
Member since Feb 2015
1051 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:40 pm to

Pace screwed the pooch on this one...... Saints were there to make him pay !!
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31582 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:47 pm to
Obviously it’s something to monitor but his timetable was 10 months back in August. I think he was on a radio show recently and said that he’s on schedule and should be 100 percent for the season or something like that.


No need to rush him. We will need him. However I think he’ll be ready for OTA’s.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10396 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:48 pm to
An entire article where the author states his option as fact. Not a single quote from the Bears saying they didn’t sign him because of his knee.

I mean it’s definitely a concern, but I regret giving that dude a click.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61269 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:53 pm to
Yeah, it's a writer trying to make sense of a front office decisions. Having said that, based on logical deduction it's clear that the writer is correct
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:53 pm to
Was $2.9 for one year THAT much of a risk, with $30 mil in cap space? I'm not buying it.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:58 pm to
Makes sense after the fact, considering they rendered him before signing all the pass catchers

Now all of a sudden you don’t have to match the offer bc you don’t really need Meredith

Doesn’t change the fact that they botched the RFA tender. Just a little easy more to stomach w a little spin job
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 7:07 pm to
$100mil in pass catching contracts was the reason.

and they fact they gave him the wrong tender. Saving face.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61269 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 7:25 pm to
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$100mil in pass catching contracts was the reason.
Didn't the RFA tender to Meredith come before all those contracts?
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 7:30 pm to
Yes, so if they were really concerned about his knee they wouldn't have given him $2 mil.

The fact is they let him slip because they later signed two other receivers (and a receiving TE), and they aren't giving up on White yet.

It's not his knee they are worried about (and the Ravens are known to be SUPER cautious with medicals and gave him a thumbs up). It's tying up even more money into the position for a guy who will be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart, and likely would be the 6th or so option in the passing game.

The knee claim is to save face. It's easy to say that to get everyone to back off that you let a guy go over $1 mil.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8381 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:03 pm to
Google Brees, Drew; Shoulder

sometimes teams make mistakes
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 8:06 pm
Posted by sland36
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2009
1814 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:06 pm to
Suckers, little do they know we have the leg experts from Ochsner on our side.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5280 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:11 pm to
They didn’t have a problem giving Allen Robinson, who is also coming off of a torn ACL, 42 million guaranteed.
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:25 pm to
If there’s a medical staff in the league that’s worse than the saints, it’s the Bears. Just look at their injuries the last few years.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:47 pm to
As said, this is easily a local writer penning a team narrative.
quote:

Pace isn’t wrong until Meredith proves he is.

Pretty much sums it up. And I think it was Gyno in another thread, this is the same GM that signed Mike Glennon to $45m/3yr, $18.5 mil guaranteed. That's roughly $200k per pass attempt for Da Bears.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:50 pm to
The Bears did not want to pay Meredith $2.9M or they would have offered him $2.9M.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61269 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Google Brees, Drew; Shoulder

sometimes teams make mistakes
I'm not defending their decision. I'm trying to understand it.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Didn't the RFA tender to Meredith come before all those contracts?




they signed all 3 the next day.Their contracts had already been worked out
Posted by trillion22
Member since Jan 2017
1 post
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:09 pm to
This article provides a different perspective on how the Saints may have gotten a steal and the Bears could have possibly made a very huge mistake!



LINK
Posted by fhsdemonfan3131
Franklinton
Member since Feb 2010
2123 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:26 pm to
So we are to believe that the gm that gave Glennon 45 million and traded picks to move one spot to take the same guy they could have got with their pick didn't make a mistake? Bottom line is he underestimated the market for him and lost him.
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