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re: Chiefs 32 @ Saints 29 | Final - CBS - Next: MIN (6-8) @ NO (10-4) 3:30 PM on Christmas Day

Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
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That was not a pass. it was a fumble. how is it not chiefs first down?
Don't think you can advance a fumble on 4th, no?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5579 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
Because the ball can't be advanced on a fumble.
Posted by xtremecouture23
Pineville
Member since Sep 2010
848 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
No, it would’ve been replaced where the fumble occurred not where it was picked up.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144362 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
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How is that not a chiefs first down? That was a fumble. his arm was not coming forwar.

Can’t advance fumble on 4th down

Saints should've challenged saying it WAS a fumble to get the turnover on downs instead of allowing the punt
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31284 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
Trying to find the rule online, but I just read by NCAA rules, it's a replay of the down after a 5 yard penalty.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
107483 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
91 yards for the tie at halftime
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
8655 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:48 pm to
How is that type of penalty not a loss of down... Defense makes great play yet the offense benefits.
Posted by DrierlintLSU
Denver
Member since Jan 2007
2908 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
He can’t advance it if it’s ruled a fumble. It was not ruled a fumble and reviewing would likely not have changed that outcome. If you decline, the result of the play stands. If you accept 5 TD penalty is assessed and the down is replayed.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22028 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
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If they hold on 4th down and we accept, the down is replayed.

I would think the illegal forward pass penalty being accepted is the same.



Of course. I don't know why this is complicated. Payton COULD have challenged saying it was a fumble, and gambled for better field position. Lineman could not have advanced a 4th down fumble.
Posted by joshyc2
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
831 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
Honestly how do things happen during Saints games I’ve never seen in my life in other NFL games!?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76198 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
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Loop hole the heck out of that rule.


I don't think it is a loop hole. It's 1st and probably only time incompetence.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14065 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
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No, it would’ve been replaced where the fumble occurred not where it was picked up.

yes. My bad
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
107483 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
Great run there AK
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5791 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
If the saints challenged and it was ruled a fumble it would have been saints ball where mahomes fumbled. He saints thought they couldn’t win the challenge so they didn’t.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
52035 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
Chiefs got away with a blatant illegal hands to the face.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
107483 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:49 pm to
Block some one Peat
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112442 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
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91 yards for the tie at halftime
80 yard TD pass coming up, all air yards!
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
76198 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
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Saints should've challenged saying it WAS a fumble to get the turnover on downs instead of allowing the punt


And then they don't overturn it and we're out of all challenges because the refs are incompetent.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
107483 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
2nd and 8
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31284 posts
Posted on 12/20/20 at 4:50 pm to
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How is that type of penalty not a loss of down


It is if it's an illegal forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage.
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