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Bub Means was Mel Kiper's "favorite" WR in this draft class

Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:33 pm
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Every April, as the NFL draft gets closer and I lock in my final Big Board rankings, I like to pick my favorite prospects at every position for the class. It has become a tradition, highlighting players I like more than the consensus, regardless of where they get drafted and where I have them ranked at their position.

What follows below is not a list of the best overall prospects in the 2024 class nor is it a list of the guys I consider the best at each position. I try not to take the obvious prospects; only one player is in my top 25 rankings. These are the prospects I've:

Often rated higher than other evaluators within the draft media or higher than team evaluators with whom I discuss prospects or ...

Ranked higher in close debates within position groups or ...

Watched and rewatched on tape, just because I like the way they play.

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Wide receiver: Bub Means, Pitt

Means had an interesting college career, as he played cornerback at Tennessee then transferred to Louisiana Tech, where he averaged 19.5 yards on 22 catches in 2021. He finished his career at Pitt, catching 68 passes for 1,122 yards and eight touchdowns over the past two seasons.

At 6-foot-1 and 212 pounds, Means has an intriguing blend of size, strength and speed. He ran a 4.43-second 40-yard dash at the combine and had a 39.5-inch vertical leap. He put up solid numbers even with some rough quarterback play. And he has huge hands and long arms. There's a lot to like here for wide receiver coaches.

Projection: Means is likely to be drafted in Round 3, though he might need a little bit of development time before he reaches his potential.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:39 pm to
We need a new stud at WR
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
423 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:44 pm to
Could he be our 'burner' at WR? 4.4 time for 40, right?

Maybe a larger version of Brandin Cooks? Could really need someone to get separation to where Carr doesn't have to throw absolute dimes to get a completion.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:50 pm to
Olave can be if he stops the stupid drops. He's already clearly our best WR as it is.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Could he be our 'burner' at WR? 4.4 time for 40, right?


Shaheed, Olave, and newcomer Wilson are burners. We're not lacking speed.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:07 pm to
There is only one 'Bub'




Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:12 pm to
The fact that Mel Kiper likes him concerns me.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:18 pm to
I’m in no way comparing him to AJ Brown, but that is who his closest comp is in the database based off size and athletic testing
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:25 pm to
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Could he be our 'burner' at WR? 4.4 time for 40, right?

Maybe a larger version of Brandin Cooks? Could really need someone to get separation to where Carr doesn't have to throw absolute dimes to get a completion.
Olave and Shaheed are both faster than this guy
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:04 pm to
Bub is a better yac man that Olave
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72034 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:07 pm to
Bubs has 25 and 32 lbs on Olave and Shaheed, respectively
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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20427 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Bub is a better yac man that Olave

Doesn't mean he's faster. Olave ran a 4.39.

What's the deal with this Yale dude, Mason Tipton? Underhill says he ran a 4.33 at his pro day. Did they mis-time that? Cuz if not, that's a very intriguing time. And he led the team with 53 catches for 800 yds; and they only threw for just about 1900 yds total. Seems like he was the only target on the team.
I see they had a lineman picked in the 3rd rd, someone must have seen something in the films.

Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:37 pm to
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What's the deal with this Yale dude, Mason Tipton?



He is raw. His route running is sloppy and has trouble beating press. Game speed doesn’t match 40 time. Likely a slot guy.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11590 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:04 pm to
I still have a lot of questions about our receiving options

Olave, Shaheed, Perry, Means, Wilson
Johnson, Moreau, Hill
Kamara, Miller

This is going to come down to coaching, scheme, and execution

We don't have an X factor on offense but we have talent that given protection, reads, and execution that can win a particular given matchup on almost any snap

One of Carmichaels biggest flaws was personnel and formations

If we can get decent OL play...Ram we could use you a lot but assuming you can't play

The season will hinge on LT, LG

Penning, Saldervadi, someone available via trade, or FA or whatever other options there are we need competent and consistent OL play

If we get that we can compete for the division but I still have my reservations about this HC being able to do anything once there...but after this break from the playoffs since Drew retired...I don't care if we are one and done anymore
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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64391 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:14 pm to
We will have a new offense for the first time in almost 20 years. Nobody talks about it much.
Posted by gregory6592
covington
Member since Mar 2013
632 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:22 pm to
Yes that’s my biggest hope it should make everyone better on offense and give the defense more time to rest.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:34 pm to
Pete Prisco likes Bub Means, too
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New Orleans Saints: B+
Best Pick: Fifth-round receiver Bub Means is a long receiver who can run. With a little polish in terms of his route running, Means can become a nice addition to their offense when it comes to the deep ball.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12051 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:00 pm to
Sounds like a Devery
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:15 pm to
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Sounds like a Devery

I don't think so...

People tend to underrate Devery Henderson because of how good Michael Clayton was at LSU. Henderson was a no-doubter deep threat, but I remember watching the Senior Bowl, where he was matched up (again) with the Oklahoma cornerback, who was an All American. Googling, I think it was Derrick Strait.

Strait just could not handle Devery in man coverage. I don't know if he was terrified of being burnt, but Devery caught a bunch of shorter (10 yd) routes on him. I remember that because it was a chance to see players from that team one more time, and thinking at the time "wow, so their unanimous All American can't handle our #2 WR".
I do recall the announcer remarking Strait just couldn't match up with Henderson, after about the 3rd pass to him.
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
204 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:43 am to
Olave will never be a Yac guy. Hes too scared, and drops to the ground
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