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re: Ben Johnson wants to interview with 1 team, "alignment" & organizational self awareness
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:37 pm to St Augustine
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:37 pm to St Augustine
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I'm convinced that Campbell has already sold Johnson on the Saints being the job he should take. I believe that sell was a component of why he didn't take any job last cycle. The Saints are a tremendous situation for a competent head coach
This is delusion from the lunatic fringe.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:18 pm to htran90
If the important factor is the alignment between coach and GM, let him suggest his own GM and kick Mickey upstairs. Most strong coaches act as their own GM anyway. Payton did.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:45 pm to blackandgolddude
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Why would you leave that to go to a shite organization like the Bears or Bengals?
Is this serious? Are you not aware that an Offensive Coordinator is not a head coach? Do you know he likely will make three to four times the salary?
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:08 pm to St Stooge
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Are you 3 years old? Must be because just prior to that time frame the Saints had a head coach wrap up an uncommonly long tenure, with an uncommon amount of control, after being hired as a young, unproven OC by basically this exact same front office.
1. Sean Payton did not have his pick of jobs back in 2006. If he did, he would’ve been Green Bay’s HC.
2. He was not hired on the condition that he’d have “control”.
3. Drew Brees
Open your eyes bubba. This FO has us 20-26 over the last three and counting. You have the worst cap situation in the history of the NFL and Derek Carr is your chosen QB. Brees and Payton haven’t been on the sideline together since 2020. It’s 2024. The boats ain’t coming.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:42 pm to GynoSandberg
Sean (just like Ben) was able to wait a year, pass on the Raiders job, and pick his spot when he was ready. Keep trying to dismiss everything that’s not an exact 1:1 mirror image. Sean had full control of this organization almost from the start. You’re out of your league, chief.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:23 am to GynoSandberg
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The Saints are a tremendous situation for a competent head coach. The front office and owner are basically just there to make numbers work, no real football centric person at that level of leadership
You are definitely smoking arse
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:27 am to St Stooge
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Sean (just like Ben) was able to wait a year, pass on the Raiders job, and pick his spot when he was ready. Keep trying to dismiss everything that’s not an exact 1:1 mirror image. Sean had full control of this organization almost from the start. You’re out of your league, chief
He did not have close to the stroke like the lions coach has right now. There were jobs Payton wanted and got passed over on. The lions coach can have any job he wants. Payton had his play calling duties stripped from him at one point. He was viewed as a bit of a gamble hire.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 10:24 am to Geauxldilocks
A lot of posters are mixing two things. A good ownership/FO and winning.
Bill didn't step into a shite ownership. Neither did Andy. What does a coach want from a owner? Resources and to stay out of his business. Saints give both of these and modern facilities all around. I think around the league we are a fairly attractive landing spot with the one caveat we all know The Cap! How much this will affect hiring top coaches I don't know. No team has ever been in this bad of cap situation in nfl history lol. I wish someone would interview a room full of former coaches and ask them this very question.
Bill didn't step into a shite ownership. Neither did Andy. What does a coach want from a owner? Resources and to stay out of his business. Saints give both of these and modern facilities all around. I think around the league we are a fairly attractive landing spot with the one caveat we all know The Cap! How much this will affect hiring top coaches I don't know. No team has ever been in this bad of cap situation in nfl history lol. I wish someone would interview a room full of former coaches and ask them this very question.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 10:29 am to Fun Bunch
He’s got a lot of Sean P in him.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:09 pm to Townedrunkard
And yet he was given almost total control of the organization. Something that could be appealing to current candidates. Why do you insist on it being a 1:1 comparison or nothing?
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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Also, an assessment from the team as to what has gone wrong and how they’ll fix it.
Will definitely scare off Loomis, the infallible prick
I can see how its a brash approach but as an interviewer I’d actually like to see my top candidate interview us as well.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:09 pm to S
He’s not coming here especially after our clown of a GM said that you have to look beyond the results and that we have the right people in the building after not making the playoffs for years.
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