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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap

Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:12 pm to
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what it doesn't include is a reason to shoot.
I never said it did. However, having a crazy shirtless man acting ridiculous in Smiths party is still a good update for Hayes. To say it isnt is disingenuous
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
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I never said it did. However, having a crazy shirtless man acting ridiculous in Smiths party is still a good update for Hayes. To say it isnt is disingenuous

to say it doesn't constitute murder (which is the only thing I care about here) is absolutely factual

ETA: I know both parties made bad mistakes that night... but none leading up to the shooting should've led to someone, ANYONE (famous or not) losing their life
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:16 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:16 pm to
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to say it doesn't constitute murder (which is the only thing I care about here) is absolutely factual
That isnt what you said. You said everything in that update is bad for Hayes. Will you admit that is not accurate?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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That isnt what you said. You said everything in that update is bad for Hayes. Will you admit that is not accurate?

from a "looking at going to jail for decades" perspective... everything in that update is bad for Hayes
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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from a "looking at going to jail for decades" perspective... everything in that update is bad for Hayes
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree

ETA: I cant wait to find out who this shirtless guy is though
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:25 pm to
I'm posting this here simply to make sure it didn't get missed due to an edit on the final post of the previous page

from Chad's article...

quote:


None of the witnesses The Advocate spoke with said they heard what an anonymous person on a darkened online video of the incident described as a dual declaration of arms before one man was shot dead. The Advocate has not been able to verify who the man in the video is and whether he witnessed the shooting.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:27 pm to
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John SimermanVerified account
?@johnsimerman
Cardell Hayes' atty files to preserve evidence from Larry Flint's Hustler Club in Will Smith killing. Also Penthouse club, Ruth's Chris.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:28 pm to
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Cardell Hayes' atty files to preserve evidence from Larry Flint's Hustler Club in Will Smith killing. Also Penthouse club, Ruth's Chris.
What the hell is this? I thought Smith was at FQF?
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:30 pm to
Been gone since lunch... can someone fill me in on what's going on so i don't have to go page to page at work?? TIA
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:39 pm to
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Been gone since lunch... can someone fill me in on what's going on so i don't have to go page to page at work?? TIA
Fuller wants the case taken out of NOPDs hands

Witnesses on scene say a shirltess man who was not Smith was acting crazy and ridiculous while confronting Hayes at his Hummer.

Witnesses cant say they heard the verbal statements from either party about having a gun.


I think that is it for new revelations


Also, Fuller wants some type of evidence sealed from Larry Flynts, Penthouse, and Ruth Chris


ETA: Fuller wants the strip club evidence preserved, not sealed
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:39 pm to
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yes... I trust they want the truth

as for the lead detective in this case... Bruce Brueggeman... he's probably the most independent investigator in the force

Read his bio

26 year police vet... born & raised in Buffalo...worked in Florida and Georgia (inc. DeKalb County on their major felony unit... and got an award from GA's gov.) before coming to NOLA 3 yrs ago


not that i don't appreciate it and i'm not happy that he's there, but i have no idea why a guy with this dude's pedigree as a cop would come work for NOPD.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:04 pm to
Wow... Guess my guy was right in a way... They knew this was gonna happen
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:05 pm to
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Wow... Guess my guy was right in a way... They knew this was gonna happen
Ask your guy about the shirtless assassin
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:05 pm to
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not that i don't appreciate it and i'm not happy that he's there, but i have no idea why a guy with this dude's pedigree as a cop would come work for NOPD.

He actually explained that in his 1st NOPD case to be profiled on "First 48"... I forget what he said
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:06 pm to
Assassin?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Also, Fuller wants some type of evidence sealed from Larry Flynts, Penthouse, and Ruth Chris

Fuller wants it sealed... so Hayes was the drunk 1?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Assassin?
I just made a shitty nickname How about the shirtless shithead?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:10 pm to
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Fuller wants it sealed... so Hayes was the drunk 1?
No. I used the wrong word

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John SimermanVerified account ?@johnsimerman Cardell Hayes' atty files to preserve evidence from Larry Flint's Hustler Club in Will Smith killing. Also Penthouse club, Ruth's Chris.


So FQF
Flints
Penthouse
Sake


That is a hell of a lineup The toxicology report could be a mess
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 3:13 pm to
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So FQF
Flints
PenthousE
Sake


That is a hell of a lineup The toxicology report could be a mess

rich, bachelor living

but wasn't Will unknowingly texted about Pierre and he was like I'm at FQF... BRThere??
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 3:14 pm
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