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re: Anybody think JoLonn Dunbar can unseat Scott Shanle?

Posted on 7/20/09 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 7/20/09 at 1:57 pm to
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I wouldn't be opposed to that. Maybe rotate Shanle and Dunbar a little more and see who performs better.


I'm good with that.

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I just think in the end you'll have 2 guys who aren't terrible but don't belong on a championship-contending defense.


Why? Not being a dick or anything, I just wanted to know why you think that?
Posted by novowels
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/20/09 at 2:10 pm to
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Why? Not being a dick or anything, I just wanted to know why you think that?


I just think that we're average at best at that position with those two players on board. I'm not saying that we can't do great things while they're still in the lineup. It just doesn't seem that either of those two players will be keys to a championship defense. Fujita and Vilma, on the other hand, are two guys that make big plays and make the defense better when they're on the field.

Just my opinion though.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21952 posts
Posted on 7/20/09 at 4:04 pm to
I think they'll hold the position down, but won't be the difference makers there. Maybe GW can improve that side a little, but we prolly still need to get a stud over there....
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
Back in Louisiana where I belong
Member since Jun 2009
2813 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 11:46 am to
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He did have a nice hit against Minnesota on the Reggie Bush punt return.


I don't know who it was but I guarantee whoever it was he pinched out a tiny turd after that hit.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 7/21/09 at 1:38 pm to
I don't know that Dunbar can unseat him, but I definitely think his odds are improved this year. I think that GW's more aggressive-style defense will play to Dunbar's strengths.

Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 7/21/09 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by CECILTURTLE
Covington, La
Member since Jan 2008
607 posts
Posted on 7/22/09 at 2:00 pm to
I guess I should start coaching because Shanle couldn't start for me in High School.

Posted by jhmusicman12
LSU
Member since Feb 2008
1626 posts
Posted on 7/22/09 at 3:31 pm to
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if he improved his 4.9 from the combine then maybe so


Speed is overrated in linebackers, even more so than it is in every other position.

It's about instincts and aggressiveness.
Posted by TPN - da #1 Stunna
Abita Springs
Member since Nov 2005
736 posts
Posted on 7/23/09 at 12:42 am to
Look, lets get this crystal clear. Our defense has sucked since before Sean Payton got here. We have been in the bottom 3rd of the NFL on defense. WE NEED TO IMPROVE ACROSS THE BOARD!! Shanle is one of the problems, not one of the solutions to this problem. We need to upgrade this position. Stop accepting below average in the place of average. Shanle is below average. He might be a great guy, but we need a better player starting at LB for our defense. Until the Saints upgrade the defense drastically (specifically at LB), we are spinning our wheels.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 9/3/09 at 8:16 pm to
3 1/2 preseason games in, has anyone's opinion on Dunbar and Shanle changed. I'd still like to see Dunbar get more PT.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/4/09 at 9:12 am to
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3 1/2 preseason games in, has anyone's opinion on Dunbar and Shanle changed. I'd still like to see Dunbar get more PT.


Shanle > Dunbar. Dunbar is getting a little bit better and has a knack for making spectacular looking plays but he's not as good and consistent and dependable as what Shanle is right now.
Posted by lsucub57
mississippi
Member since Jul 2009
255 posts
Posted on 9/4/09 at 10:11 am to
I heard on the radio during the Oak game that Shanle was the teams Def MVP last year.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/4/09 at 11:36 am to
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I heard on the radio during the Oak game that Shanle was the teams Def MVP last year.


Yes he was.

ETA: Voted for by the players.
This post was edited on 9/4/09 at 11:37 am
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7678 posts
Posted on 9/4/09 at 12:12 pm to
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I heard on the radio during the Oak game that Shanle was the teams Def MVP last year.


Yes, and I think he was second on the team in tackles. The guys saying he sucks just don't know shite about football. He is a solid player, not flashy, but solid. I think some idiot started saying how bad he is, and it just snowballed to every dumbass football fan repeating it. Have ya'll even watched a Saints game recently.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21952 posts
Posted on 9/4/09 at 12:16 pm to
A/ he's not a household name.

B/ he's fair complected.

C/ not hyped up by the media.


this is why people just assume he is not good. he's no multi-pro bowl freak of nature, but he gets it done.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 9/4/09 at 1:37 pm to
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this is why people just assume he is not good.


I thought it was the overrunning of plays and lack of ability to get to the qb.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/4/09 at 1:40 pm to
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I thought it was the overrunning of plays and lack of ability to get to the qb.


That was a scheme problem remember. That's why G-dubb is here.
Posted by Hello Newman
prairieville
Member since Feb 2008
2094 posts
Posted on 9/4/09 at 1:52 pm to
Personally I think Dunbar can unseat Shanle but not this year. Shanle is a pretty good linebacker. I think it helps to have Dunbar in case of Shanle getting injured though. If that were to happen then everything is up in the air, but as for now Scott Shanle is the man and should be.
Posted by lsucub57
mississippi
Member since Jul 2009
255 posts
Posted on 9/4/09 at 2:21 pm to
Shanles lack of geting to the qb wtf? O yea 4-3 lbs get so many chances to get preasure on the qb.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16708 posts
Posted on 9/5/09 at 8:31 am to
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Ryan3232
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Shanle really isnt THAT bad
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He might not put up 100 tackles a year, but who does besides the allstar calibar players


140 tackles last year
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