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re: 3 YR/$100 Million for Carr

Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:08 pm to
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He’s not bottom 5 like many like to claim, but he’s around 20.

No, he’s around 10-13
Posted by burke985
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:26 pm to
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No, he’s around 10-13


He’s definitely top 15 23 million here and 30 million increase is a 53 million cap swing
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:38 pm to
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No, he’s around 10-13


In no particular order here are a dozen I’d take over Carr right now:

Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Dak
Rodgers
Stroud
Love
Cousins
Goff

I’d argue, especially given their age, Hurts, Lawrence, Tua, and Murray are all better too. Even Baker outplayed him last year. There are a couple more that may fit the bill, though we need a larger sample size. Not to mention incoming rookies.

Carr is nowhere near top 10.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:44 pm to
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I’d argue, especially given their age, Hurts, Lawrence, Tua, and Murray are all better too.


You don’t even have to argue with any outside of Murray.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26904 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 1:24 pm to
In 2027 Carr is going to have a 17 mil cap hit and isn't even under contract. Looks like in 2028 it will be another 5 mil.

shite is getting out of hand. Loomis would usually do something like this near the end of the contact. Now he is doing it after the first yr.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 1:29 pm to
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In 2027 Carr is going to have a 17 mil cap hit and isn't even under contract. Looks like in 2028 it will be another 5 mil.

This is just for now. We will 100% restructure him next year and kick another $25M or so onto those years
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59039 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 2:04 pm to
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No, he’s around 10-13


In the NFC?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4434 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 2:11 pm to
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That's also before we restructure the hell out of the $30M base next year.


You already know
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 2:21 pm to
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I’d argue, especially given their age, Hurts, Lawrence, Tua, and Murray are all better too.


Easily. You also left off Purdy

The guys you’d “argue” are Baker, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson,, Jimmy G, Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones

If you’re considering money then you’d rather the Fields and Mac Jones’ of the league because if you’re going to be mid at least you’re cheap
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 2:28 pm to
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If you’re considering money then you’d rather the Fields and Mac Jones’ of the league because if you’re going to be mid at least you’re cheap


paulbeasy is going to legit murder you

...

and then call your corpse a pussy
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Easily. You also left off Purdy


He was the main one on my mind for that sample size comment. He’s had a great start to his career, can he sustain it now? One could say the same about Stroud, but looking at the teams around them tell me Stroud is the real deal. But yes, based on 2023 Purdy is better than Carr.

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The guys you’d “argue” are Baker, Geno Smith, Russell Wilson,, Jimmy G, Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones


This is where it gets tricky and hard to rank. Richardson is another that we’ll have to see, but when healthy he was far better than anticipated. Baker, Russell, and Watson at their best are definitely better than Carr. They’re inconsistent though just like he is.

Based on all the ones referenced, that would put Carr somewhere around 18-22, not including rookies, which seems about right.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
26904 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 3:25 pm to
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is just for now. We will 100% restructure him next year and kick another $25M or so onto those years


Loomis is restructuring contracts after the first year now. If that doesn't show people what is going on I don't know what will. Ruiz just got restructured after the 1st yr of his new 4/44 contract.


I just don't understand how people act like this is some great, earth shattering strategy.

It's not even their choice anymore. They have to do these things to be able to operate. It's different when you are making these moves out of a position of power.

It's like a reverse mortgage at this point. This on top of trading picks and drafting Longshots, it's time for a new braintrust in the front office.

Ireland has totally lost his luster in my eyes. This is the most important draft for the Saints since 2017.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18016 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:56 am to
One is now close to top of the league while the other is an underperforming malcontent and complete loser.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:10 pm to
Insane
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1228 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:24 am to
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Not a bad deal if you’re the Saints. There is no way that fourth year (50mil) gets picked up, so his deal is essentially 3 years, 100 million. 33.3 million for a franchise QB is not breaking the bank, and 3 years isn’t exactly a marriage. The Saints front office did real good here.


Wait a minute!!! I thought the plan was always to extend and restructure his contract!!!! Lmfao
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