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re: Yeah, that Chandler trade really worked out for us
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:32 pm to NIH
Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:32 pm to NIH
He's a major injury liability... which is why OKC wouldn't take him in that initial deal...
Of course Chandler healthy is better than Okafor.
But Okafor >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7'0 guy in street clothes.
Of course Chandler healthy is better than Okafor.
But Okafor >>>>>>>>>>>>> 7'0 guy in street clothes.
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Posted on 5/3/11 at 12:35 pm to OBUDan
frick em both...
Bring back RyBeast.
Bring back RyBeast.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 1:27 pm to tehchampion140
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The thing about that is, this isn't the 1,000,000th thread about Chandler.
Yes it is.
Let's just have one mega thread where people can bitch about JR Smith, Thornton, and Chandler at their leisure without bothering the rest of us.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:03 pm to Port City
Tyson has started 465 games in his 9 seasons in the league. Okafor has started 480 games in his 6 year career.
Tyson hasn't played a full season since he has been in the league and Okafor has 3 82 game seasons in his career.
Lets just compare the last 2 seasons Okafor has had with the Hornets and Tyson's last 2 seasons.
Tyson: 125 games (101 starts), 25.3 min per game, 61% fg%, 1.1 blocks per game, 7.8 rpg, 8.3 ppg.
Okafor: 154 games (154 starts), 30.3 mpg, 55% fg%, 1.65 bpg, 9.3 rpg, 10.35 ppg
By the numbers Okafor > Tyson.
Tyson hasn't played a full season since he has been in the league and Okafor has 3 82 game seasons in his career.
Lets just compare the last 2 seasons Okafor has had with the Hornets and Tyson's last 2 seasons.
Tyson: 125 games (101 starts), 25.3 min per game, 61% fg%, 1.1 blocks per game, 7.8 rpg, 8.3 ppg.
Okafor: 154 games (154 starts), 30.3 mpg, 55% fg%, 1.65 bpg, 9.3 rpg, 10.35 ppg
By the numbers Okafor > Tyson.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 2:03 pm to Port City
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JR Smith, Thornton, and Chandler
Championship.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 5:46 pm to Noplacelikehome
you didn't bring up "shots altered" or alley oop dunks...
Posted on 5/3/11 at 7:28 pm to chalmetteowl
Nor did he bring up playoff series played in the fetal position, Emeka 1 Tyson 0.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:37 pm to NIH
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Nor did he bring up playoff series played in the fetal position, Emeka 1 Tyson 0.
Look at Tyson's numbers against Dwight Howard in last year's playoffs or the year before against Denver in the playoffs. Those numbers are more "fetal" than Okafor's.
I would have loved to have Tyson in these playoffs to go up against the much larger Lakers but to say that the trade didn't work out for the Hornets based on this series is dumb.
This post was edited on 5/3/11 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/3/11 at 9:43 pm to Noplacelikehome
Okafor was average in a throw away in '09-10 and dissapeared when it mattered most in a playoff series, not to mention his abortion of a contract. That trade was and still is another failure of Jeff Bower. It amazes me that Hornets fans are still reaching to defend that idiot.
Posted on 5/3/11 at 10:17 pm to Noplacelikehome
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I would have loved to have Tyson in these playoffs to go up against the much larger Lakers but to say that the trade didn't work out for the Hornets based on this series is dumb.
Ok, how about that we will pay a just above mediocre center 12-15 million dollars over the next 4 years. That good enough reason to say it was a bad trade ?
Posted on 5/4/11 at 12:33 am to MrWiseGuy
Yeah no doubt his next few years on his contract are pretty bad, but Tyson actually made more money than Okafor the past 2 seasons. No, in hind sight the Hornets shouldn't have taken his contract, but at least Okafor was in uniform while being paid while Tyson sat the bench bc of injury.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 7:22 am to NIH
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NIH
You know I can't resist. You and I both thought the trade was a good one when it was made.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 8:32 am to VOR
the better trade would have been the one to OKC, honestly. we'd likely have cap room to really go after FAs
the okafor deal was good for the short term. saved shinn money and got us a capable 5
but long term? great googily moogily
*ETA: and i know people with good memories will say i was against the OKC trade, but that was a different time. at the time, i was worried about shinn deciding to go cheap and not improve the team. in hindsight, it was worse than we all thought, and we've all become desensitized to the financial problems. at the time, we all thought that this team could sustain its current payroll to stay elite.
the okafor deal was good for the short term. saved shinn money and got us a capable 5
but long term? great googily moogily
*ETA: and i know people with good memories will say i was against the OKC trade, but that was a different time. at the time, i was worried about shinn deciding to go cheap and not improve the team. in hindsight, it was worse than we all thought, and we've all become desensitized to the financial problems. at the time, we all thought that this team could sustain its current payroll to stay elite.
This post was edited on 5/4/11 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/4/11 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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the better trade would have been the one to OKC, honestly. we'd likely have cap room to really go after FAs
I agree. Unfortunately, well . . . shite happens.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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the better trade would have been the one to OKC, honestly
No it wouldn't have.
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in hindsight, it was worse than we all thought
Looking over the 2009 free agents it wasn't pretty. LINK Bower probably would have thrown the full MLE at Zaza Pachulia.
This post was edited on 5/4/11 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/4/11 at 9:18 am to TigerinATL
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No it wouldn't have.
we'd have cap room to go after either marc gasol or chandler to play the 5 this offseason
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Looking over the 2009 free agents it wasn't pretty. LINK Bower probably would have thrown the full MLE at Zaza Pachulia.
we wouldn't have had the cap room to sign anybody i don't think. this offseason would have led to the potential bounty, with peja's deal coming off the books. remember a year ago we were burdoned by the contracts of paul, west, peja, wright, and posey. those contracts alone meant no FA
Posted on 5/4/11 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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or chandler to play the 5 this offseason
We'd have the cap space to undo the Shinn/Bower mistake by siging Chandler.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 9:37 am to TigerinATL
well with a new CBA, i doubt chandler will be on the market for $10M/year
so we get a rejuvenated tyson for less money/years
i'd much, much rather marc gasol
so we get a rejuvenated tyson for less money/years
i'd much, much rather marc gasol
Posted on 5/4/11 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'd much, much rather marc gasol
Not happening I don't think. Randolph extended because he was told they were keeping Gasol, and the way they've played has made Rudy expendable if you had to choose between Rudy and Gasol. I still think Mayo is the odd man out, but what I've seen out of the Grizzlies recently makes me think Gasol isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 5/4/11 at 9:49 am to TigerinATL
if not gasol, we could have used our space to try and trade for an expensive piece another team didn't want
like gay in your example
or randolph, when the grizz got him
as is, the hornets are basically fricked. trading chandler to OKC gave the hornets a chance to get lucky and become elite
like gay in your example
or randolph, when the grizz got him
as is, the hornets are basically fricked. trading chandler to OKC gave the hornets a chance to get lucky and become elite
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