re: Would you trade a top 2 pick for Domantas Sabonis?

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I can tell you don't watch college

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We now have (2) competent bigs between Missi/ Karlo that will cost us 5.5mil a season for the next 2 years.

Locking in Sabonis/ Zion for 85mil a year while having no future plan at SG and questions on Murrays abilities post injury is a bad move for future.

Fans seriously want to keep a rotation of CJ/ Jose/ Hawk going forward if this is the case and that's beyond stupid. (We wouldn't have any other money and they are arse in the grand scheme).

Furthermore I stated I wouldn't trade a top pick and I expect future traded 1sts to be in the 20's if we build a competent team and fill holes. I really don't think the people who dv me have enough critical thinking skills to process that when I make those comments.

If you actually think my comment and answer was as simple as "I wouldn't trade Missi for Sabonis" or "I want to trade 2 top 10 picks > Missi" then you I'm sorry your brain works that way.

Now that I've cleared those things up please explain to me how the frick that has anything to do with not watching college basketball?

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We need young talent. We don't need expensive vets.

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He cleary understands.

We have an opportunity to add a quality shooter in the draft and still have $35Mil to split between a center and vet SG with CJ/ Hawk. We have $40MiIL if we take Hawk, CJ, and Jose.

We could legit add Cam Johnson, add Capella, get a vet SG cheaper than CJ who does the same thing in a minmalized role with TPE, and resign Brown that is seen as a very tradeable asset. But y'all want to put your eggs in 1 basket and frick ourselves by getting rid of players that can get better/ mature and holding onto lost causes/ players that won't be relevant in 2 years.

We could have Olynyk to help Karlo/ Capella to help Missi while actually creating space and letting our top 5 pick/ Reeves mature with a good group of Murray/ Brown/ Vet TPE. Both Murray/ Brown/ SG TPE would be on "team friendly" deals that make them valuable assets if they produce.

Only Pels fans would view all of this as a negative and view Herb moving to the bench because we have better players as a "bad thing" while simultaneously hoping that we sabotage/ move on from productive young players.

Absolutely fricking wrong.

#2 + another FRP and CJ gets you Book.

The only team that beats that is the Rockets and they want KD.

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Brown

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I have no idea what you’ve seen in Bruce Brown to be this gung-ho on signing him. He’s been AWFUL. Dude looks washed up. Vet minimum ish level player. We give 8-10 a year to him I’m gonna be frigging pissed. You could lock Jose up for that kind of money. An actually serviceable, net positive NBA player.

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You could lock Jose up for that kind of money. An actually serviceable, net positive NBA player.

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Are insinuating that Jose is a "net positive NBA player" ?

Are you also insinuating that you'd actually want to pay Jose MORE than what he makes?

That is 2 of the dumbest things I've heard on here.

The truth is that I don't really care what we do going forward as long the we take the $40mil combined between CJ/ Hawk/ Jose and get them off this fricking roster.

Bruce Brown is 100% a better option and player than Jose as a #2 PG going forward and Reeves needs a chance as our #3 PG. We are drafting a shooter at #1-5 and they are immediately expected to jump CJ/ Hawk for the future.

We could slide Trey to SG to "replace" CJ and then trade for a guy like Miles Bridges/ Cam Johnson that actually helps us on offense, defense, switching, chemistry, and long term stability.

The idea fans have of resigning Jose for MORE money or resigning CJ for longer takes away all sympathy I could have for any of you as a sports fan.

Bruce Brown is obviously the better NBA player than Jose, that shouldn't even have a need to be discussed.

1 insinuation I definitely disagree with:

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Are insinuating that Jose is a "net positive NBA player" ?

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He very very very obviously is a net positive NBA player. Much like BB vs Jose isn't a conversation worth having, "is Jose a net positive" NBA player is not a conversation worth having, because he clearly is.


In 4 seasons on this team, Jose has the single best net rating. Also, if you take out the OFF portion and just look at ON, over the past 4 years the Pelicans better when Jose is on at a rate better than any other player on teh team.

That doesn't mean you're the best player on the team. But there is zero over 4 seasons and 4k minutes, you'd luck into that if you're a net negative player.

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That doesn't mean you're the best player on the team. But there is zero over 4 seasons and 4k minutes, you'd luck into that if you're a net negative player. ?

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Alright you got me, Jose very well is a " net positive player" considering when we signed him his value was 0.

Will Jose Alvarado ever be a difference maker or the reason we make/ miss a championship? No he will not.

Its already time to take Jose/ Hawk 5mil contracts and look for future players with a higher ceiling. Giving either a larger contract makes them net negatives

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Will Jose Alvarado ever be a difference maker or the reason we make/ miss a championship? No he will not.

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So I'm assuming for you to view someone as a net positive player, they have to be the reason you either win or lose a championship?. New flash: role players, even very good ones, are not the reason you win championships.

I don't expect some of y'all to like what I say but atleast try to understand what I'm saying. I feel like a parent that tells his kids not to eat tide pods and then gets scolded for ruining their fun.

I care more about the future of this team > any singular player, especially a mid to end of the bench player.

The goal is to win a championship not hold onto mediocre players that make you feel good.

Would you trade Zion for Sabonis?

Majority of the board wanted to just waive him a few months ago or trade him for peanuts. I figure he’s the kinda player we’d end up getting back for Zion. A lower ceiling guy but isn’t injured all the time.