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re: Would you be pleased w/ Tari Eason at 7-10?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:02 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:02 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Hell there’s a better chance we take Sochan before Eason
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Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:06 pm to tigerbaiter
I thought Eason might be a guy to look at in the unlikely event we trade back in the first. For example, if you traded the 8th pick to the Hornets for picks 13 & 15, you might wind up with Agbaji and Eason. I'd be good with that outcome, two guys coming off the bench who give you good size, defense and athleticism + still have some offensive upside. I doubt he trade back given our roster depth, but adding an athletic big like Eason AND a better, bigger bench guard who can space and defend 1-3 would be good value.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:25 pm to New City Champ
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For example, if you traded the 8th pick to the Hornets for picks 13 & 15, you might wind up with Agbaji and Eason. I'd be good with that outcome, two guys coming off the bench who give you good size, defense and athleticism + still have some offensive upside. I doubt he trade back given our roster depth, but adding an athletic big like Eason AND a better, bigger bench guard who can space and defend 1-3 would be good value.
I understand your reasoning but I disagree just because of the Pelicans circumstances and lack of depth in this draft. In this type of draft, I would rather take a single swing on a player with higher upside than trade back for two lower ceiling guys. We might not be drafting this high again for a while and this could be our best chance to add high-end cheap talent. To me, the guy I think we take needs to either develop enough to replace one of our top five 3-4 years from now when the roster is getting expensive or show enough promise to be the center piece of a trade for a last competing piece. I don’t think Eason, Agbaji, or anyone in the 13+ range can be that. However, I could absolutely see someone like Sharpe turning into that guy.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:35 pm to Baron
Fair enough. You can certainly argue that this may our last chance at a lottery talent (though with how the Lakers are going, you never know) and we should take a swing at upside talent rather than solid role players.
On the other side I'd just note that, one, you never really know who is going to make the jump up, a guy like Abbaji, for example, could be the next Jimmy Butler, so it's all projections. Two, If Zion is all the way in, you might be ready to start your run as soon as next season. In that case going with higher floor guys with experience who you have a vision for with the existing roster is a plausible option.
BTW, I like Sharpe as well. I'd really be happy if we came out of the draft with a big scoring guard prospect who, initially at least, can give us some size and shooting off the bench.
On the other side I'd just note that, one, you never really know who is going to make the jump up, a guy like Abbaji, for example, could be the next Jimmy Butler, so it's all projections. Two, If Zion is all the way in, you might be ready to start your run as soon as next season. In that case going with higher floor guys with experience who you have a vision for with the existing roster is a plausible option.
BTW, I like Sharpe as well. I'd really be happy if we came out of the draft with a big scoring guard prospect who, initially at least, can give us some size and shooting off the bench.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:40 pm to New City Champ
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For example, if you traded the 8th pick to the Hornets for picks 13 & 15
Griff seems to really love doing this, and far more often than not, the team moving down loses big time, so i pray he doesn't do this yet again unless it means he moved some combo of DG/Jax/Kira to get back a big upgrade to DG's bench scoring position.
on top of that, we have 14 guaranteed contracts going into next year.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:53 pm to New City Champ
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Two, If Zion is all the way in, you might be ready to start your run as soon as next season. In that case going with higher floor guys with experience who you have a vision for with the existing roster is a plausible option
That’s why I brought up the trade aspect. If we think we are ready to compete sooner rather than later, using who we take with the 8th pick as a centerpiece for a trade will probably get us someone who can help us compete more than whoever we would take with the 13th and 15th picks. We actually have some depth finally, so the only way to really improve the roster is with a dollar rather than 4 quarters.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:21 pm to Baron
I’m actually going to take a bit of a contrarian position here: Tari has all the tools necessary to be an excellent combo forward in the NBA and I wouldn’t be upset if he is taken top 10 by the Pels. This is a guy with requisite height, speed, leaping ability, and strength for the position, who likes playing defense and plays hard. He also has excellent hand-eye coordination, which show up in his ability to finish with basically one move (right handed dribble drive) and his very high steal and block rate. His shot is ugly but it goes in at a decent rate from 3 and a strong rate from the foul line, and he even has a bit of an in-between game with floaters and such.
He had an incredible increase in offensive role from Cincy to lsu. He has a lot of growing to do offensively, but I think he can become a strong scorer and defender on the wing, which is pretty damn valuable. The only thing that concerns me is his playmaking instincts. I’m not sure he’ll ever be a plus at setting up his teammates.
He had an incredible increase in offensive role from Cincy to lsu. He has a lot of growing to do offensively, but I think he can become a strong scorer and defender on the wing, which is pretty damn valuable. The only thing that concerns me is his playmaking instincts. I’m not sure he’ll ever be a plus at setting up his teammates.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:29 pm to hassan whiteside
Seems early for him. I think Tari may develop into a solid player in the league, but he’ll need some coaching and polish to hone his athleticism. Later first round maybe, but not top 10
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:05 pm to hassan whiteside
No. He couldn’t get off his shot when guarded by and athletic guy his size. No way he helps this team. None
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:03 pm to redfish99
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No. He couldn’t get off his shot when guarded by and athletic guy his size. No way he helps this team. None
Sick analysis. What game are you referring to? Kentucky?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:36 pm to redfish99
Yeah I do t know about that. Eason definitely has his limitations, but he was actually better in SEC play. I was actually impressed he was able to get his shot and be efficient considering his limitations and LSU’s limitations on the offensive end. That’s why I think Eason won’t bust in the NBA. I just don’t see his ceiling being higher than 5th best starter.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:15 pm to hassan whiteside
On one hand I think he'll be good in the NBA. He has a versatile skillset and is solid on defense. If he's clearly BPA (which I don't think he will be at #8), we should take him.
That being said, if we're drafting for fit, there seems to be a consensus that the Pels need a bigger guard, and that outside scoring is the team's greatest weakness.
I think Eason's a little redundant if we're starting BI+ Zion, and off the bench we have Nance and are looking to continue to develop Hayes and TM3. That could also leave us trotting out two tiny guards in the backup rotation depending on how things shake out.
I don't mind Eason, and wouldn't complain about the pick, but I don't think he's the best fit and I don't think we would be able to play him much unless we're moving some guys.
That being said, if we're drafting for fit, there seems to be a consensus that the Pels need a bigger guard, and that outside scoring is the team's greatest weakness.
I think Eason's a little redundant if we're starting BI+ Zion, and off the bench we have Nance and are looking to continue to develop Hayes and TM3. That could also leave us trotting out two tiny guards in the backup rotation depending on how things shake out.
I don't mind Eason, and wouldn't complain about the pick, but I don't think he's the best fit and I don't think we would be able to play him much unless we're moving some guys.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:18 am to Fun Bunch
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just fyi, tankathon now has him going in the top 10. So one would assume there is buzz about that.
His defensive metrics are what are really driving the climb. I've heard more than one scout rave about his defensive versatility and how that will rate at the NBA level.
and the improvements he made on offense from his first to second year only accentuate that.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 2:08 pm to hassan whiteside
Latest mocks have him dropping into that 14-17 range.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:18 pm to armsdealer
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It was more like "He can start at LSU next year if he cleans up his game."
No one with a functioning brain ever thought this. He was LSU’s best player without question.
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
A foul machine on the defensive end too. Picking Eason 7-10 would be a major reach. Loved having him on the LSU team though.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:38 am to SofaKingTrill
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A foul machine on the defensive end too
We call that Jaren Jackson Jr. syndrome in my house.
I agree that Eason probably doesn’t make much sense for the Pels because of the logjam at his position combined with our likely draft spot. Just think people ITT are being a bit harsh in their criticisms because they saw the good and the bad every game with him for LSU. We are acutely aware of his flaws and take some of his strengths for granted. Just my opinion. It’s how you get takes like “he struggled to finish against SEC athletes” for a guy who shot 50/40/80 in SEC play on a team with below average spacing around him.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:45 am to redfish99
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No. He couldn’t get off his shot when guarded by and athletic guy his size. No way he helps this team. None
Eh, I don't really agree with this. He was able to get his shot really whenever he wanted this year, but he will have a significantly tougher time in the NBA because he doesn't go left.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:01 pm to CP3forMVP
I like Eason for defensive potential, I think this team desperately needs another elite perimeter defender. You look at teams like Phoenix and Dallas and they are just flush with switchable 3&D wings. (frick Jae Crowder) Dyson Daniels looks to have a lot of potential, I like Mathurin as well. But I say we just win the lottery and take Jabari
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