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re: Willie Green no longer sure about the time frame on BI’s “injury”
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:34 am to Soggymoss
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:34 am to Soggymoss
quote:Tendonitis tends to linger. It is more of a pain management issue while building up muscles in the area to support.
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Tendonitis takes a week, or two at the most, to recover from
Tendonitis can last for a week or two, multiple weeks, multiple months, or even up to a year. We all know how the softest player in the league heals, so you know it’s going to be the multiple weeks/months timeline, and frankly I’m not convinced its tendonitis and I believe the team is just trying to cover for his bitchness.
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BI will be back on the court soon,
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probably tomorrow.
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Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:49 am to ThePistol
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The issue is that tendinitis, or tendinopathy, is visible on MRI. The team initially came came out and said there was no issues identified in his MRI. If tendinitis was visible in the MRI they would know exactly what tendon was involved and how long he should be out.
In other words, BI should not miss multiple games after an MRI that shows no diagnosable issues. So we either have a case of the team blowing it and lying with their messaging or BI is slow playing a recovery from a non diagnosable injury with the gold standard of imaging.
The team said "no structural issues." In other words, there's nothing broken or torn. That was the message that they wanted to get out right away. After that, the team disclosed that BI had tendonitis in his knee.
Can some of y'all conspiracy freaks put the magic mushrooms down for a minute?
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:51 am to NOSHAU
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Tendonitis tends to linger. It is more of a pain management issue while building up muscles in the area to support.
I know it can linger. I've had it in my elbow. It's much more likely to linger if it isn't rested. That's why it's good that BI has been held out a few games to let the tendon rest.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:56 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:I'm not following your stance here.
The team said "no structural issues." In other words, there's nothing broken or torn. That was the message that they wanted to get out right away. After that, the team disclosed that BI had tendonitis in his knee.
Using the team's track record, and then given BI's track record as the backdrop...
BI seemingly randomly a few hours before a game is ruled questionable, then later ruled out with knee soreness. Next game, we're told he'll basically be a gametime decision to see if he can go, late scratch ruled out again with knee soreness.
The above should lead you to believe he'll be back very soon, probably next game maybe 1 more at the most...
Then all of a sudden the diagnosis changes from knee soreness to knee tendinitis, and now the coach is on record saying he thought he was day to day, but now he's not so sure any more.
And now instead of after the initial 1st and even 2nd game where it was fair to assume he'd be back very soon, now it's fair to assume this will potentially be a multi week thing where he's out.
Is it not the same shite over and over again and this just being the latest example?
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:10 pm to NOSHAU
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Tendonitis tends to linger. It is more of a pain management issue while building up muscles in the area to support.
Pop an Advil and wear a sleeve. Good to go
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:23 pm to Delusional
For BI- I would add some anxiety medication with that advil to take care of some mental hurdles he has coming back from injuries smh
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:23 pm to shel311
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Then all of a sudden the diagnosis changes from knee soreness to knee tendinitis
"Soreness" is a symptom, not a diagnosis. BI's knee was sore, it turned out, because he had tendonitis.
To me, it seems likely that, in attempting to return to play, the tendon became more inflamed, and the staff decided to hold him out a few games to let the tendon rest and the inflammation to go down.
That's the logical explanation. We have no reason for the nonsense "BI doesn't want to play" takes, except for the board's paranoia.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:28 pm to GOP_Tiger
“We have no reason for the nonsense "BI doesn't want to play" takes, except for the board's paranoia.”
- these takes aren’t just paranoia on the board. If you read between what CJ, Joel and Willie have said- it seems more of a pain tolerance issue. BI has done this in the past- so he gets no benefit of the doubt.
- these takes aren’t just paranoia on the board. If you read between what CJ, Joel and Willie have said- it seems more of a pain tolerance issue. BI has done this in the past- so he gets no benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 12:46 pm to Pels_Yaz
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hese takes aren’t just paranoia on the board. If you read between what CJ, Joel and Willie have said- it seems more of a pain tolerance issue. BI has done this in the past- so he gets no benefit of the doubt.
This^^^^ toe-gate last year was by all accounts BI sitting out much longer than was necessary, especially given the stakes and circumstances for the team.
Given that totally agree with you....he loses the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:35 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:There is definitely a reason tot think that BI has a very minor injury and could play through it but won't play unless he's 100%.
We have no reason for the nonsense "BI doesn't want to play" takes, except for the board's paranoia.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:42 pm to shel311
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There is definitely a reason tot think that BI has a very minor injury and could play through it but won't play unless he's 100%.
I’ve consistently been as big a BI defender as anyone; but I just can’t do it anymore. The above statement sums up perfectly where I’m at now. I really wish I wasn’t.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 2:43 pm to GOP_Tiger
So your stance is this was the team coming through with horrible messaging again, correct? Because structural or not, if tendinitis was present on the MRI, then the team knew the diagnosis and prognosis before announcing the MRI the way they did. They announced it as no structural damage and that BI was day to day.
The official word then changed to tendinitis 72 hours after the imaging and the timetable changed from “day to day”to “I don’t know.” This has nothing to do with conspiracies and everything to do with actually listening to what has been released.
The official word then changed to tendinitis 72 hours after the imaging and the timetable changed from “day to day”to “I don’t know.” This has nothing to do with conspiracies and everything to do with actually listening to what has been released.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:55 pm to ThePistol
Their cryptic messaging is an attempt to keep ticket sales from dropping.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 3:56 pm to Delusional
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Pop an Advil
Rub some CBD lotion on it then roll up a fatty of some legal LSU "inflammation" meds and get out there BI.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:25 pm to ThePistol
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So your stance is this was the team coming through with horrible messaging again, correct? Because structural or not, if tendinitis was present on the MRI, then the team knew the diagnosis and prognosis before announcing the MRI the way they did. They announced it as no structural damage and that BI was day to day.
The official word then changed to tendinitis 72 hours after the imaging and the timetable changed from “day to day”to “I don’t know.” This has nothing to do with conspiracies and everything to do with actually listening to what has been released.
OK, I'm not any kind of medical expert, but I have had tendonitis. It's inflammation. It can even get worse from eating some foods that don't agree with your body. From the timeline, it almost certainly got worse after the original diagnosis.
But y'all really think that the medical staff made up the tendonitis diagnosis? Y'all think that is fake? That's insane.
Yes, BI should have tried to come back faster from his toe injury last season. That doesn't mean that his toe injury was fake.
I'm just done with this board for a while. I need to take a break. The Pels are 4-1, our rookie looks awesome, we found a great shooter for free, CJ is better than ever, Borrego's offense is clicking ... and this board wants to live in Q-land with stupid conspiracies. Y'all are nuts.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 5:30 pm to hkc
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Their cryptic messaging is an attempt to keep ticket sales from dropping.
The team is 4-1, you dolt. Success sells tickets more than anything.
Y'all can't make up your minds whether BI is faking an injury and the medical staff is in on the conspiracy, or whether his leg is about to fall off and the medical staff is lying to cover it up.
Guess what? Both of those are stupid.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
You are honestly talking me off the cliff. I have been a staunch supporter of BI but this is getting close to too much for me to take. If we weren’t playing good basketball and currently 4-1 with the only loss being to the Warriors where the refs weren’t gonna let us win then this would be a different story. In reality he doesn’t make us that much better in the regular season but he is a necessity in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
Who is talking about conspiracies? I have laid out how these things are diagnosed. You keep bringing up the medical staff. The medical staff has no control over what and how information is released. That is Trajan and Griff. BI had imaging done on Tuesday morning. At that point the team knew what his injury was. The team has now changed the official diagnosis of his injury. Despite your personal experiences, I can assure you that a professional athlete’s tendinitis did not worsen because he ate the wrong foods in 72 hours while he was getting treatment multiple times per day.
This is the third year in a row that BI has missed multiple games in the first three weeks of the season for questionable injuries. The mysterious hip issue that happened in game 6 of 21-22, the back hand concussion in game 3 of last season, and the between shootaround and pregame knee soreness/tendinitis before game three of this season. We are 4-1 but our offense is ranked 23rd and the rookie starting for BI is shooting 31% from the field and 27% from 3. Most fans are quite happy with the record but frustrated that we are losing early opportunities for the team to come together with our best 3 players on the court.
This is the third year in a row that BI has missed multiple games in the first three weeks of the season for questionable injuries. The mysterious hip issue that happened in game 6 of 21-22, the back hand concussion in game 3 of last season, and the between shootaround and pregame knee soreness/tendinitis before game three of this season. We are 4-1 but our offense is ranked 23rd and the rookie starting for BI is shooting 31% from the field and 27% from 3. Most fans are quite happy with the record but frustrated that we are losing early opportunities for the team to come together with our best 3 players on the court.
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