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re: Why the hate for Jaxson Hayes?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:44 am to Philippines4LSU
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:44 am to Philippines4LSU
Which team in the championship had a traditional center? I'll wait....
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:44 am to PrayingMantis
The Kid is a 19 year old long athletic rim protector with great hands and tremendous upside.I can guarantee Gentry will develop his offensive game. I really like the pick.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:45 am to Saintsntigers04
How is Hayes "traditional"?
Gasol is much more traditional than Hayes' projection
Gasol is much more traditional than Hayes' projection
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:45 am to PrayingMantis
I don’t see him as being a “ project “ at all. He’s a complement to the skill set of the guys around him. He can jump out of the gym, defend the interior, grab and put back loose balls, excel on the pick and roll. The normal maturation process is all we need here. It’s a great pick for this specific team. Specifically with the cap space we have and the ability to let him develop.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Gasol can shoot the ball.. no matter what you tell yourself to try to justify the pick he does not fit this team with the other players we have
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 9:50 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:49 am to landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:49 am to chRxis
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personally, Cleveland fricked that pick up, IMO... you essentially have small G's who are not great facilitators... it's gonna be interesting to see how they make that work.... i personally would've gone with Culver, if i were them, to pair with Sexton, as he gives you a guy that can play 1-3, maybe even 4 in a pinch, but they went with a guy who can only play 1-2, and they already had that, so i dunno...
I agree with all of this. This pick proved that Cleveland is a mess in the front office. They have no idea what they are doing. But, that has no relevance to how Garland would fit on the Pels.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:50 am to TeddyPadillac
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I agree completely Bronc.
I'm anxious to see how Jrue/Lonzo/Ingram will play with Zion, and if they can start hitting open 3's at a respectable rate.
I think the future plan is to have most of the ball handling and offensive creating coming from Ingram and Zion, so if Lonzo can't figure out how to shoot, he might not be here too long. Jrue won't be here forever either. Your future lineup in 5 years is Ingram/Zion/Hayes more than likely. Those other two spots are up in the air.
Hayes is the prototypical 5 you want. There's nothign stopping us from signing a shooting 4 or 5 to play right now. No one is expecting Hayes to play 30 minutes a night anytime soon.
And I agree with this to an extent.
But it is also why I would have preferred to stay at 4 and take a flyer on a player like Garland or Hunter. Prototypical 5’s are one of the easier positions to fill without overpaying through free agency.
Ingram/Zion/Hayes barring major developments in their skill set is a problematic core.
Ingram is a poor shooter, who is best in isolation but is not good enough to ask Zion to stand around so Ingram can create. They all occupy the same space offensively, and while stout defensively, you need points to win in this league. So I would be skeptical.
Garland made sense now and 4 years from now no matter what direction the team or Zion goes. Same for Hunter who is just a utility knife that you can’t have enough of in this league.
Hayes to me is hopefully one day Myles Turner. Myles Turner to me is the guy you can get with a couple late firsts and an Alexander level prospect when Indiana has to make a choice. He’s not the centerpiece I give up 4 for when I might not pick that high again.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:50 am to Saintsntigers04
I'm not celebrating the pcik baw, but I'm being honest.
Athletic, running rim protector types are the modern 5
You can say we overpaid but not that he doesn't fit
Athletic, running rim protector types are the modern 5
You can say we overpaid but not that he doesn't fit
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:51 am to Saintsntigers04
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he does not fit this team with the other players we have
And there is your problem. You're thinking about next year.
Griffin and company are thinking about the next 5.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:51 am to PrayingMantis
Losing garland for a project makes zero sense that’s why
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:52 am to Saintsntigers04
Gasol has 3 “successful” shooting seasons of his 11 years in the nba 
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:52 am to landrywasbeast30
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I agree with all of this. This pick proved that Cleveland is a mess in the front office. They have no idea what they are doing. But, that has no relevance to how Garland would fit on the Pels
Unless you think Sexton is the future and you are ready to win now, you take BPA and worry about moving one or the other down the road.
Drafting for need that early in the process, a process that doesn’t even have a centerpiece, seems silly.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
He fits if you want five guys on the floor that can't shoot the ball
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:52 am to Saintsntigers04
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Which team in the championship had a traditional center? I'll wait....
Toronto has 2, Golden State had several as well.
Did you forget what year it is or who was in the finals?
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:53 am to Fun Bunch
Like looking at the roster from top to bottom, he absolutely fits. We want players who plays hard on both ends of the floor. Garland is the one that doesn’t fit that criteria.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:54 am to Fun Bunch
It would be different if the guy was just an inconsistent shooter he has no shot
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:54 am to ScaryClown
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Losing garland for a project makes zero sense that’s why
Garland is a project dumbass.
He's got about a 30% chance of turning into something useful, since no one knows how he will project in the NBA.
I guarantee you Hayes plays at least 12 years in the NBA. Projections have him as the most likely player to make an all star team after Zion in this draft.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:54 am to supe12sta12z
Wtf are you talking about dude. Garland can shoot he fits the criteria more than anyone else by far.
Have a downvote teddy.
Have a downvote teddy.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 9:55 am to PrayingMantis
Probably because he averaged 5 shots a game.
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