re: Why the hate for Jaxson Hayes?

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Hey idiot, why don't you take a look at his jumper in this video, kid has nice form. LINK

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Wow!

Can he touch the rim without leaving the floor?

My wife’s a Longhorn so we spent, probably, an excessive amount of time debating the Jaxon pick last night. (But that’s not why I’m dropping my first ever post; been lurking for half a decade). Once she began to swing me to her side about this being a quality pick, a big part of the optimism was me fully believing that Zion will definitely develop a consistent 3 point shot himself, like so many greats do after they don’t need it in college (even though he had the best 3 % on the team, however low volume). The thought of Zion with a league average, or above 3, along with his incredible bully skills, while having Jaxon clean everything up like a wild man running around and jumping over everyone, is exciting.

After seeing the Jaxon jump shot video (not great form but looks comfortable...and not bad form considering it’s like the 5th one he’s taken in a year and half) I’m on the “he’ll develop a shot” side too while Zion is also jumping out of the gym on put-backs and PNRs. And all of that for the next 5-7 years makes for a lot of fun in the front court.

Surprisingly what hasn’t seemed to process (here anyway) is that Indiana drafted Goga while we (y’all) constantly discuss that they already have two bigs who can’t coexist. This board would explode-melt into itself if the Pels had done that. I hope that means Turner is coming because I want him to come teach Hayes how to be him.

I’ll save the post about how I think Jaxon Hayes turns into AD Light over his first 5 years for my monster second post.

Not replying to you directly just the easiest button to click.

Looking at Hayes’s form in the video:
His right arm is almost at a 45 degree angle. This isn’t how I was taught. Allegedly, you want it straight up and down. However, he is absolutely consistent with this form and seems to have it mapped out well as it translates to a pretty accurate shot.

Should we make him re-learn a new/“correct” form to optimize his release point? Not sure it is worth it with his height. The whole point would be to raise the release point to avoid his shot being blocked. A secondary point would be to increase accuracy. However, as previously stated, he has it mapped out and consistent and it is already pretty accurate.

I love all the moves and picks so far. I think making him re-learn a new shooting form is a “the juice isn’t worth the squeeze” situation. We’ll get the shooting threats in other ways from other players. Hayes needs to bulk up and get sick cardio. Rebound, defend the rim, and run your arse off. The rest will come...just like I have watching this team come together.

Because you don't understand the vision Griffin is taking with this team. They will lock up on D and play around Zion which will allow them to use their talents in transition

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Imember

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Can my wife and your wife be friends?

This part isn’t a direct reply to you, but Zion shot 34% from deep last year. That wouldn’t be a bad % for a rookie if he can maintain it from farther out.

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I think you build around your best player in whatever way makes the most sense and run whatever offense makes the most sense.

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“What I'd say through this is trust us, stick with us. You're not going to know in advance how the dots connect, but we're going to connect them."

- David Griffin

welcome man im sure you've seen a lot from your lurker days



you make good points. for this to be a formidable pairing, one needs to develop a consistent shot. I'd prefer it be Hayes because Zion is so incredible at driving, but only one really has to to make this work


Indy is a VERY interesting situation. I went from assuming that they'd need to move either Sabonis or Turner to them drafting Goga. So I have no idea what's going on lol

Yep. That’s why ole boy said it was Lonzo-esque, I’m sure. It’s definitely coming just off the left side of his forehead making his elbow kick out, or vice versa. Because it looks comfortable/ smooth (and accurate on the few they showed) unlike Lonzo, I agree, probably doesn’t need to be retooled...maybe tweaked without causing him to start over. I think he could raise it and straighten it out some without screwing it all up. Happy to see it look like a decent shot when he strung a few together. Just not his game yet. Lots of time to learn while bulking up. With him Zion on the court together (in a couple of years probably,) no one gets to the rim.

In years we may have other shooters and not need a stretch 5

Some people really hate the pick