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What would a winning Team USA look like in 2024

Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:07 am
that did not include Lebron Curry and Durant?

Obviously some guys could become stars in the next year or two that shake this up, but what would your roster look like?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:32 am to
Tatum
Brown
Booker
Edwards
Bridges
Mitchell
Zion
AD Bitch
Paolo
MPJ
Lavine
Haliburton

Garland/Ivey/JJJ would be my next guys.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:41 am to
One would think Morant would be on the team if he wants to be and has cleared his life up
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:52 am to
I’m pretty sure they don’t allow guns at international airports in europe either.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10768 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:17 pm to
Embiid/AdeBayo
Tatum/JJJ
Edwards/Brown
Booker/Haliburton
Mitchell/Young

I'd get Sabonis to change over too. Can save a spot for a couple of guys that might show out.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:19 pm to
murray is Canadian.

he did not play in this fiba tournament.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

One would think Morant would be on the team if he wants to be and has cleared his life up



no.
can't shoot and isnt' a good defender.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Tatum Brown Booker Edwards Bridges Mitchell Zion AD Bitch Paolo MPJ Lavine Haliburton Garland/Ivey/JJJ would be my next guys

So another group that’s undersized, and won’t play much defense or rebound?
AD isn’t playing international ball
Jaden Ivey????
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:44 pm to
AD is not undersized, and he should be playing. If he doesn't want to play, then get JJJ or Bam.
Paolo is 6'10" 250. He's more than big enough to play the 5.
MPJ and Tatum can more than play the 4 defensively.

This teams problem wasn't at center, and that's not why they lost. They had JJJ and Paolo, and then they were playing with guys under 6'5". They had no 4's to help out with defense and rebounding, and were relying on Edwards/Bridges/Hart/Reaves to be the 2nd biggest guy in the lineup.

Tatum and MPJ are actual 4's, as well as Zion if he learns how to get in shape and actually play defense.
and this team severely lacked elite offensive players out side of Edwards. BI was a massive failure.
The bench for this team was pathetic. A US team should break away from opponents when the 2nd unit comes on. backups from Germany should not be able to compete with our 2nd unit.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Zion
AD Bitch


neither of those guys should be on the squad.

their health is too fragile to play international.

did you notice some poor sport hit a serbian with an elbow in the round of 8 and the serb player lost a kidney.
Olympic and fiba expose the usa to thugs.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:54 pm to
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4's, as well as Zion if he learns how to get in shape and actually play defense.


so 2028.
he should be at his ceiling by then.

you dont put him on the roster just based on wishful thinking about defense.




Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:14 pm to
No argument that Zion is fragile, but he plays (when he plays) like a beast, not a pussy. No one is bullying him or hurting him from physical play. He's not going to go sit b/c he got a bobo b/c someone got physical with him. He gets aggravated by it and then goes dunk on you.
AD....yeah i agree, he's a fragile little bitch, but he's what you need at the 5. Great defender/rebounder and can stretch the floor on offense.


JJJ and Bam are the better defenders at the 5, but neither of them help spread the floor on offense, and we aren't giving them the ball down low either, so they are really just in the way offensively. AD spreads the floor. Zion is an elite finisher at the rim. They are both much better suited to help a US team than JJJ or Bam.

The US has never needed a great 5 to win anyone, so i don't really care who the 5 is. They simply need a 5 that is going to do the dirty work and play good defense. They could bring in Nic Claxton and be fine. But they also need to have big players at the 3 and 4. Guys like Durant, Lebron, Carmelo, PG, Kawhi, Draymond are big 3's and 4's.
This team had literally no 4's or 3's on the team, just 1's and 2's.

Tatum/MPJ/Zion/Paolo. That should be the 4's, and there should be lineups where 2 of them are on the court to be even bigger.

Booker/Edwards
Brown/Lavine
Tatum
Zion/Paolo
and a 5 that plays good D and hustles his arse off.
That is a big lineup, that is uber athletic as well.

Edwards would be the 2nd smallest guy on that 8 man rotation. He was the 2nd biggest guy on the current teams rotation.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

you dont put him on the roster just based on wishful thinking about defense.



i didn't put him on the roster b/c of his defense.
He's on the team b/c he's the best finisher at the rim in the world.
I want guys who play hard on both ends of the court. If you can't play average good defense with intensity and effort, then you better be an elite offensive player like Curry/Lillard, and Zion is an elite offensive player.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10768 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:18 pm to
I think you are underestimating a good PG. Schroeder was killing us. Can't just play 2s and 3s. Need a good floor general..
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:47 pm to
1. Morant/Trae
2. Booker/Ant
3. Jimmy B/Jaylen B
4. Tatum/JJJ
5. AD/Bam
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
10768 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:08 pm to
Why no Embiid?

Also no D. Mitchell?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123713 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:30 pm to
Embiid technically could if he wanted to, as he got American Citizenship last year.

He may want to play for France or Cameroon though?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Why no Embiid?



for 1, he's from Africa and i'm not sure if he'd play for the US, although i'm sure he could at this point if he wanted to.
and B, he's always hurt and doesn't need that extra mileage on his body playing for a country he's not from.


quote:

Also no D. Mitchell?



Knowing Murray if from Cananda now, i would insert DMitch into my 12 man roster.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28605 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

I think you are underestimating a good PG. Schroeder was killing us. Can't just play 2s and 3s. Need a good floor general..



I agree somewhat. CP3 was an awesome team USA player.
I don't think it's necessary when you have so many athletic guys on the court that can break a defense down 1 on 1 no matter who's guarding them. No one was scared of Jalen Brunson, or Austin Reaves, or Josh Hart (even though he's a great finisher), or Mikal Bridges, or BI driving to the goal like they are if it were Zion, Edwards, Tatum, Booker, Mitchell, etc. We have too many ridiculous athletes that can finish at the rim, but this team had just 1. You put 4 of them on the court, and then there's no one to leave open, especially when they can all knock down open 3's at a high percentage.

Schroeder killed us b/c he switched off onto lesser defenders that couldn't handle him.
I don't want a team full of non defenders, which is why i didn't initially put DMitch, and why i dont' want Trae or Morant.
Good luck getting the switch you want when Booker/Brown/Tatum/Edwards/athletic 5 are on the court.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16647 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:05 pm to
Embiid wasn't born here. If he decided he wanted to play for the US then obviously he is a no-brainer.

But yea you could easily make a swap to put Mitchell on there as well somewhere.
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