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What leverage does Gayle have ?

Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Pelican707
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:01 pm
Exactly what leverage does management have in the BI contract negotiations? Seems to me he has all the leverage how can we not pay him and he’s the only player who dresses for games and actually performs like a star .. oh let me guess we still building around our imaginary cornerstone Zion huh ??
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:21 pm to
What leverage does BI have? We can’t pay him the max under the new cba. So if that’s a dealbreaker for BI, we either hope to trade him or let him walk
Posted by Pelican707
Member since Apr 2021
165 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:25 pm to
Lmao what leverage does BI HAVE ??? Umm let me see he’s averaging 25 while shooting the 3 ball at 40% we can start there first

Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:32 pm to
I mean he’s not doing either of those things, but I have liked him taking more 3s. BI is a quality player, I’m not knocking him and I’d love to keep him, but the Pelicans can’t afford to pay him $50M/year
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:38 pm to
The leverage we have is that no one is willing to
trade for him and pay him what he is asking for.

If he was more highly coveted and valued league wide, he’d have a lot more leverage in contract negotiations.

The leverage that he does have is that we risk to lose him for nothing if we do not meet his contract demands. But at the same time, he is also risking getting an injury like Boogie (or more random blood clots) and never getting paid any significant amount of money by any team if he continues to drag this out.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
11839 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:40 pm to
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What leverage does Gayle have ?by SCLSUMuddogsWhat leverage does BI have? We can’t pay him the max under the new cba. So if that’s a dealbreaker for BI, we either hope to trade him or let him walk


He’s played in 85% of games at an above average per. He will get a 3 or 4 year deal/35a year this off-season but not from Nola. My guess
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:45 pm to
for sure, but in this context I thought we were talking about a max contract. I don’t see BI having leverage there because he’s not a max player in the current cba and we literally can’t afford it unless other moves are made.

I’d totally pay him $35M per. He’s worth that
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 pm to
From my understanding; he’s still under the max lottery paradigm. If that deal isn’t made, he falls to a veteran minimum paradigm. Griff\loomis have no leverage. He can score 22 a night just pulling up inside the arc.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:28 am to
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The leverage we have is that no one is willing to trade for him and pay him what he is asking for.
this
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:11 am to
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Lmao what leverage does BI HAVE ??? Umm let me see he’s averaging 25 while shooting the 3 ball at 40% we can start there first


Two words, boogie cousins. Ask him if he regrets not taking a long term deal while healthy. Want to take a guess at how much money he lost.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:14 am to
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how can we not pay him and he’s the only player who dresses for games and actually performs like a star


You know you aren’t obligated to pay every borderline all star type player like a superstar right?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:58 pm to
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how can we not pay him
Very easily... he's not worth his asking price.


If the moment a guy signs a contract, he immediately becomes a negative value, you should not sign him to that contract.
quote:

Exactly what leverage does management have in the BI contract negotiations?
Hardly any teams will have cap space next season...

No one wants him at the price he wants...
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and he’s the only player who dresses for games and actually performs like a star
We still talking about Brandon Ingram? He most certainly does not dress for very many games.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:59 pm to
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Lmao what leverage does BI HAVE ???
Yea, can you answer that question?
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Umm let me see he’s averaging 25 while shooting the 3 ball at 40% we can start there first
1. He's literally not doing either of those things.

2. No one wants him on their team tight now, but he has leverage?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20725 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:03 pm to
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If the moment a guy signs a contract, he immediately becomes a negative value, you should not sign him to that contract.



Correct. Windhorst says that regularly, and it's a great way to evaluate a contract: would other teams want to trade for the guy at that price?

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We still talking about Brandon Ingram? He most certainly does not dress for very many games.



We still don't know for sure about the recent calf soreness. I think that many were convinced that he was sitting out some games due to his contract and changing agents, but BI always takes forever to come back from minor injuries, so who knows for sure?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79188 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:03 pm to
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What leverage does BI have?


His leverage is that it would look bad if we got nothing for him.
Posted by AboveTheRim
Member since Sep 2020
602 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:08 pm to
Magic interested in a guy who can help while their top guys are out ?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20725 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Magic interested in a guy who can help while their top guys are out ?



They are in the Eastern Conference. They'll be fine.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12928 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:13 pm to
Still think the best play is to bet on his market not being there and stick to the numbers they set going into the season and him being open to re-signing once he realizes this.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20725 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Still think the best play is to bet on his market not being there and stick to the numbers they set going into the season and him being open to re-signing once he realizes this.



Yep. There's still a good chance that, in the offseason, we can offer him more than anyone else.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7799 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:02 pm to
Bump. Baw got hurt. Pels now have even more leverage. It’s a dangerous game that Ingram is playing rn. Dude is often injured and has no trade market. He should have been jumping on a 4yr 160 Mil offer.
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