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What could we realistically get for Zion?

Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:38 am
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
1084 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:38 am
Hypothetically speaking, if the team decided to move on from Z via a trade, what’s a realistic return? He can’t have much trade value at this point, and I know his contract was a bit weird with certain clauses so I’m not sure how the salary matching rules would come into play.
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3928 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 6:45 am to
A Good young player and a couple of picks probably.

Few years ago we’d have taken a teams asset bank and best players… plural.

It’s a fricking sad, infuriating mess that seemingly could only happen to us… repeatedly.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27695 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:07 pm to
If you don’t want Zion, why would anybody else?
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17480 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:08 pm to
Some GM or owner will think he can get through to him. Trade him for Josh Hart and filler and let NYC eat him alive.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Trade him for Josh Hart and filler and let NYC eat him alive.


New York like the vibes they have. I bet they say no which is crazy considering how bad they wanted him couple years ago.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:12 pm to
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If you don’t want Zion, why would anybody else?


Bingo. We’re not the only ones seeing these flabby Zion pics. Imagine selling your fanbase on him and knowing hes constantly hurt. We’re never getting what we want in value for him.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27695 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Some GM or owner will think he can get through to him. Trade him for Josh Hart and filler and let NYC eat him alive.
I don’t think they would for the haul many here are hoping for.

A GM might take a flyer on him for cheap. But I can’t imagine any GM trading away valuable picks and/or prospects for him. He’s too unreliable.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68978 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:19 pm to
Very little. Like this board would send 100+ downvotes for ever it ended up being.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5440 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:24 pm to
Because everyone thinks they can fix another teams problem
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Because everyone thinks they can fix another teams problem


They do think that but only if they can get that problem(Zion) for cheap. No one is over paying to fix a problem. I remember Kyrie went for nothing to Dallas- granted he was an expiring and had some interesting issues- but that guy legit has won big time games. Dallas won on that trade but they weren’t giving young players and multiple high draft picks.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5440 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:31 pm to
I dont think anyone is expecting a war chest. Think most of us just want to move on.

Saw Josh Hart mentioned. Thats probably about the tier we can expect.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5440 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:33 pm to
Kyrie also had multiple instances of being a problem on a few different teams. I feel like, at least on your 2nd chance teams are more likely to buy in a bit more.

Quite frankly its easy for a GM to look and say NO has a strength and conditioning problem maybe WE can work through it
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Quite frankly its easy for a GM to look and say NO has a strength and conditioning problem maybe WE can work through it


I mean thats the hope. A team with a strong culture like Miami or the Warriors might think that honestly.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1872 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:39 pm to
I’m looking for at least salary relief, a promising young player, 2 good 1sts, and a swap.

Depending on the team and the young player, that could fluctuate. My first calls would be to the few franchises that are just as dysfunctional as us that maybe desperate for some buzz like Chicago, Detroit, or Charlotte
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Detroit


Bro you know Trajan ain’t getting Zion. He knows all too well the issues probably more than us fans know.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20079 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:53 pm to
No serious franchise will want him

Would it be easier/better to cut him and move on?
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1872 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Bro you know Trajan ain’t getting Zion. He knows all too well the issues probably more than us fans know.


Good point, you’re right I wasn’t thinking about Trajan. Mark at least one team off the list
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
23470 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 2:22 pm to
When he got hurt in the fricking covid bubble in Orlando and flew home - I knew he was a bust. Maybe not a bust at some other team but a bust here. I said we should trade him them and you all dug your heels in on that fat frick.

You could tell on draft night that he was a headcase.

Now we'll be lucky to get shite for him if we don't end up cutting him first.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14108 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 3:34 pm to
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I’m looking for at least salary relief, a promising young player, 2 good 1sts, and a swap.



Y’all are delusional

This isn’t a prime AD or CP3 where they just want to play winning basketball. Zion straight up doesn’t want to play basketball at all. Charlotte, Detroit, Chicago, etc isn’t going to mortgage their future for a guy that won’t get on the court as is. Oh, and he’s making max money.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12045 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
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Some GM or owner will think he can get through to him. Trade him for Josh Hart and filler and let NYC eat him alive.


You have to get someone back with a much higher ceiling than Hart. Love him but no way. Their picks will also be bad.
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