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We desperately need 3 point shooting
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:00 am
I agree that point guard is a very important position, but is it as important as getting a legit 3 point shooter for this specific Denver Nuggets style of offense we are supposedly running?
With Cousins and AD controlling the ball large portions of the game I just don't see the need to go out and sign a Jrue Holiday to a 22-25 million dollar a year contract, or a Kyle Lowry at that whos 31 years of age.
I am not advocating to going out and paying Danilo Gallinari 20 million a year, but what I am saying is we really need shooters, or an elite 3 point shooter to really make this offense work.
We may have to go find that guy through a trade since this FA class is lacking shooters. I also looked at a list of 2018 free agents and nobody really stood out besides Will Barton and Rodney Hood.
So does anybody agree with my opinion that the Pelicans absolutely should not overpay a Holiday or another pg but instead go after a starting guard/wing if not this summer then next summer.
With Cousins and AD controlling the ball large portions of the game I just don't see the need to go out and sign a Jrue Holiday to a 22-25 million dollar a year contract, or a Kyle Lowry at that whos 31 years of age.
I am not advocating to going out and paying Danilo Gallinari 20 million a year, but what I am saying is we really need shooters, or an elite 3 point shooter to really make this offense work.
We may have to go find that guy through a trade since this FA class is lacking shooters. I also looked at a list of 2018 free agents and nobody really stood out besides Will Barton and Rodney Hood.
So does anybody agree with my opinion that the Pelicans absolutely should not overpay a Holiday or another pg but instead go after a starting guard/wing if not this summer then next summer.
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:04 am to MrPel
Nice plan but sadly Dell is on the overpay the Holiday brothers bandwagon.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:07 am to WB504
I just think the smarter way to go is to bring in a Darren Collison for 7-9 million a year and let him be the "pg". He wont be as productive as Holiday but I really don't think we need a ton of production from the pg position with this offense.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:10 am to MrPel
It's more than just getting people that can hit the 3 though. Cunningham shot 39% from 3 but never drew much attention from the defense. Even Eric Gordon was left open a lot as a Pel. But you know who wasn't? Buddy. He had a reputation AND they ran his arse all over the court on offense. That's what the team needs to try and get, not a stand in the corner shooter but a run all over the court shooter.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:13 am to MrPel
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We desperately need 3 point shooting
The problem is "needle moving" 3 pt shooters cost some serious $$. 33 year old JJ Redick is about to get a contract somewhere in the 15-21 million / year range.
I really like Aaron Afflalo if we're going to go after the Kings' scrap heap. Decent wings cost more than decent point guards. Look at what another ex-King, Rudy Gay, will likely command vs someone like say Jeff Teague. Everyone wants length to be able to match up with these hybrid lineups run out by the elite teams.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:14 am to TigerinATL
I think Will Barton's game is like this but not sure how we get him.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:18 am to MrPel
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I think Will Barton's game is like this but not sure how we get him.
He's not at the top of my list for trading the 2018 pick, but he is probably about the 3rd or 4th option. I think the Pels really should wait on Barton though. If you get him now he will cost a 1st, but guys that are on cheap deals and are about to get paid go for a lot less near the deadline. Wait and maybe you can pick up Barton mid season for a few 2nds.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:01 am to TigerinATL
I agree if we are going to trade our first round pick I would prefer it not be for a player that is on an expiring contract. That's why I think if the magic are willing I would go after Evan Fournier very hard this offseason.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:44 am to BSB1988
I have been thinking for sometime that Evan Fournier would be a great trade target. He is young, a proven shooter, playmaker, and can play both the 2 and three. I think he is under contract for another 4 years at 17 million per. The Magic seriously need to hit reset and seem a little down on Fournier because he wasn't as efficient as the number one option. I think he would be excellent as the third/fourth option on a playoff team.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:47 am to twin span
quote:Would love him on this team, but doubt Dell can make it happen.
I have been thinking for sometime that Evan Fournier would be a great trade target. He is young, a proven shooter, playmaker, and can play both the 2 and three. I think he is under contract for another 4 years at 17 million per. The Magic seriously need to hit reset and seem a little down on Fournier because he wasn't as efficient as the number one option. I think he would be excellent as the third/fourth option on a playoff team.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:50 am to MrPel
I think we will improve 3 point shooting internally and try to bring in Jodie Meeks. Etwaun had some nagging injuries last season. In his recent intevriew, he said his goal is to get above 40% this season. Hill improved, particularly from his spots. Jamelle McMillian said they are continuing to work with him on his follow through/bailing out to get back on defense and that he is improving. That is not the easiest thing to correct in season. So I see his numbers improving.
Jodie Meeks is probably the best shooter for cheap available thanks to his injury history. McLemore and Young are 2 long, young guys with nice shots who may improve in a new situation. Regardless of whether Jrue signs or not, they will add shooters to the roster.
Jodie Meeks is probably the best shooter for cheap available thanks to his injury history. McLemore and Young are 2 long, young guys with nice shots who may improve in a new situation. Regardless of whether Jrue signs or not, they will add shooters to the roster.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:56 am to NOFOX
Bring back Galloway, I'm sure he'd love to be bait again. No but seriously, he played well for his role.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:01 am to TigerinATL
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It's more than just getting people that can hit the 3 though. Cunningham shot 39% from 3 but never drew much attention from the defense. Even Eric Gordon was left open a lot as a Pel. But you know who wasn't? Buddy. He had a reputation AND they ran his arse all over the court on offense. That's what the team needs to try and get, not a stand in the corner shooter but a run all over the court shooter.
DC was 40%, but he only shot 2.7 per game and most came from the corners where he was just standing around as you said. Hill took the same amount of 3pa/36, but took about 2x as many from the left wing where he camps out to to get back on D as he did from the corners. I am hoping he can improve his % from that spot from 35% closer to 40%. I think he can. Etwaun should be more of a shooter this year too and as I said in the other response, I think they will bring in someone like Meeks who will miss games (so should be cheaper), but his perimeter shot must be respected.
Also if you watched the highlights of him moving off ball around the perimeter, I think that is what they have in mind eventually for Frank Jackson.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:03 am to NOFOX
I think Frank Jackson fits well, but he'd be a 2nd half of season player in the best case scenario.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:03 am to htran90
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Bring back Galloway, I'm sure he'd love to be bait again. No but seriously, he played well for his role.
Crewz said he was not highly thought of by the coaching staff. He didn't really have to be included in the trade and can not believe he would be a sticking point in negotiations, so if they wanted him, they likely could have kept him.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:05 am to TigerinATL
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I think Frank Jackson fits well, but he'd be a 2nd half of season player in the best case scenario.
Right. That's what I think they have envisioned for him. Buddy - some shooting + some finishing & athleticism. Like I said, I think Meeks makes the most sense as a target to fill the gap until next season when Jackson can hopefully play more of a role. PRoblem is that players willing to run all over with a shot defenses must chase usually don't come cheap and must be developed internally.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:10 am to MrPel
Quinn Cook has been ripping nets this offseason. But yeah. We need more outside scoring in a bad away.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:10 am to MrPel
Time to revive Marcus Thornton's career
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:11 am to NOFOX
Right. I think Crawford can fill that role too, but his defense is bad enough that you can't play him much more than 20-25 MPG.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:39 am to NOSHAU
They would have to clear a lot of cap space (assuming Jrue resigns), probably by attaching future numbers ones to some combination of Asik, Ajinca, Moore, or Hill. I would do it if the opportunity was there. The Pels badly need a legit wing.
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