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Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:15 pm to TackySweater
quote:
Only thing that showed here js that you’re completely clueless lol
Nah frick that. GOP is PT Suite gang. If you met him and spoke hoops with him then you know he’s a real Pels fan.
I’ve only met a few of y’all but I consider those I have to be pretty loyal fans.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:15 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:54 am to longhorn22
I don't think it is Trashy-Fake Fans here but mostly ones who are tired of accepting mediocre answers. For the love of God the orgainization has gave been giving Dyson Daniels non-stop opportunities to get out of his "Head-Case Shooting Yipps"since he missed the Lakers free-throw. They have been force feeding him layups(still misses) and open three's but he acts like he is playing hot potato with the ball. Other teams notice this and leave him alone causing hell for the others on the floor. 17 minutes a game of this adds up. Yes, he can play defense but at what cost? I do believe he didn't play in Friday's game and they resigned Seabron so maybe this will either force him to CLEAR HIS HEAD too! Our medical staff needs a "Pediatric Physchiatrist" Loyal Frustrated Fan P.S. Really missing Alvardo's energy!
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:57 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
GOP is good people. I wish he'd provide more context as to why we shouldn't be pissed off right now
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:06 am to whatiknowsofar
What context do you need? The immaturity is sky fricking high right now.
No one knows what's going on but people are acting as if they know all the ins and outs of the NBA and managing a $100 million asset.
No one knows what's going on but people are acting as if they know all the ins and outs of the NBA and managing a $100 million asset.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:07 am to LouisianaJoseph
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The immaturity is sky fricking high right now.
Yes, from zion.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:11 am to TackySweater
Pretty tacky.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:15 am to whatiknowsofar
Some people lash out at the players.
Some people lash out at coaching or management.
Some people lash out at Mrs. B for having a vagina.
Some people lash out at the lashers.
Some people rely upon eternal optimism.
Some people don't lash and crawl under the bed for nights on end.
At the end of the day, we all have different coping mechanisms.
Some people lash out at coaching or management.
Some people lash out at Mrs. B for having a vagina.
Some people lash out at the lashers.
Some people rely upon eternal optimism.
Some people don't lash and crawl under the bed for nights on end.
At the end of the day, we all have different coping mechanisms.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:20 am to whatiknowsofar
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I wish he'd provide more context as to why we shouldn't be pissed off right now
People shouldn't not be pissed, but they are so up in their feels they aren't using their brains.
People acting like they're done with Zion aren't done with Zion. BI did the same thing 3 months ago. LITERALLY THE SAME THING. He was cleared and it took about 2 weeks to "feel like himself" before he started playing. This was all in the middle of the 10 game losing streak.
If BI had played when he was physically cleared, we'd probably be the 5 seed right now. Where is the same level of melt over that? It went away because since BI did come back and started playing, he's been amazing. The same thing will happen with Zion. Sure he'll always have his haters, but he'll play again and be amazing and most of the people up in arms right now will put the torches and pitchforks away, because all they really want is for Zion to play like he's capable of playing.
The sad thing in all this melting is fans are focusing on what they don't have and aren't appreciating what they have. This team has a winning record, which may not sound like much, but this is only the 5th time in the last 15 years that they've had a winning record. Trey is having a breakout season. A young player showing so much so early is a BIG deal. Trey is going to be really, really good. Herb went from regressing this season to getting right back on track and showing us there might be more to him than we even imagined.
You guys are writing this team off as dead and acting like Zion will never play again, when this season isn't over. I don't know how this season will end. It could even be over tonight. But it's not done yet, so save the melting for when the final results are in and the team is actually done for the year.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:20 am to Chad504boy
quote:
Some people lash out at the players.
Some people lash out at coaching or management.
Some people lash out at Mrs. B for having a vagina.
Some people lash out at the lashers.
Some people rely upon eternal optimism.
Some people don't lash and crawl under the bed for nights on end.
At the end of the day, we all have different coping mechanisms.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:41 am to whatiknowsofar
We don't know the full details of Zion's rehab. We don't know if he had a second setback and didn't want people to know, because the media narrative is that's he's made of glass, etc. We don't know if, as can happen when rehabbing an injury, he hurt something else (actually seems likely to me). We don't know what the team has or has not done in terms of his fitness and conditioning.
What we do know is that the public wanted Zion to talk, and so he tried to assure people that he's working hard to get back to the court, but he's not ready yet, and he tried to explain that in the best way that he could to diffuse the situation, and he chose his words poorly and made things worse. In Zion's words yesterday, I heard the voice of someone who wanted to change the media narrative away from his body being fragile, or him being overweight.
If you even listen to Zion in any interviews, you know that he's bad at them and very uncomfortable. He's just not all that great, generally speaking, at interpersonal communication. He always comes across as fake or coached, because he doesn't want to say the wrong thing, and that's a weird thing to hate a guy for.
What we do know is that Brandon Ingram said some of the same things in his recovery. BI stayed out several games after he had been cleared because he wasn't ready yet. And, somehow, the talk about Zion being mentally weak is completely different than when BI said almost the exact same thing a couple of months ago (or when lots of other NBA players say the same thing).
What we do know is that Zion loves the game of basketball. He badly wants to play. We saw that in his injury last season -- his inability to play frustrated him very badly. But comparing him to Ben Simmons is ridiculous.
Did y'all think that we were going to win a title this season? We weren't. This was always a development year.
And it was clear that we weren't going to try at the trade deadline, when Zion had his setback and we didn't push any chips in to acquire more talent.
The hate for Griff is baffling. This season, we saw:
- BI develop as a playmaker and leader
- Trey develop into a strong MIP candidate
- Herb improve significantly as an offensive player
- Jose become one of the best backup PGs in the league
- Dyson, despite being only 18, show the promise of a future all-star
With some offseason upgrades at the center position, we will be the favorites to win the West next season.
Zion has a unique body. We all know that. It's time to accept that his body may not heal from injury the same way that other players' bodies do, instead of hating Zion for that.
And in our disappointment that we don't get to see Zion this postseason, we should keep in mind that most of us always thought that our championship window would open next season, and that is more the case than ever.
I can go back to December and find dozens of posts with people praising Zion and Griff to the skies, and those same people are now saying the dumbest stuff about both of them. Good fans aren't quite this fickle. Some of you have flip-flopped on Zion and Griff several times in the last year.
I'm not calling anyone a bad fan for being disappointed. Heck, I'm disappointed. But vicious insults against Zion because his body hasn't healed? Yeah, that makes someone a bad fan. Trashing the future of the team? That's just dumb, and it doesn't make anyone a good fan either.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:45 am to GOP_Tiger
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But vicious insults against Zion because his body hasn't healed?
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:45 am to GOP_Tiger
What a weak take by GOP Tiger, grow a pair of balls and learn to stand up for yourself.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:52 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:The pelicans have their very own Ben Simmons. Just fatter.
Zion is healthy and not playing. We are allowed to melt
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:10 am to GOP_Tiger
I’ve defended Zion to the hilt but he really screwed himself today with how bad and immature he sounds. The kid needs to grow up and take some accountability for keeping his body in shape even when he’s rehabbing. You can tell he’s 15 lbs heavier than he was in January just by his face yesterday.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:44 am to GOP_Tiger
go to school. get a job. get married. have some kids. pay your taxes. watch tv. take every vague update and misleading PR attempt from this organization as gospel. believe both zion and david griffin are incapable of making mistakes. dont question any of the moves made by this organization. call out others who dare disobey.
now repeat after me: "i am free"
now repeat after me: "i am free"
Posted on 4/12/23 at 12:10 pm to GOP_Tiger
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What we do know is that Zion loves the game of basketball. He badly wants to play. We saw that in his injury last season -- his inability to play frustrated him very badly. But comparing him to Ben Simmons is ridiculous. Did y'all think that we were going to win a title this season? We weren't. This was always a development year. And it was clear that we weren't going to try at the trade deadline, when Zion had his setback and we didn't push any chips in to acquire more talent. The hate for Griff is baffling. This season, we saw: - BI develop as a playmaker and leader - Trey develop into a strong MIP candidate - Herb improve significantly as an offensive player - Jose become one of the best backup PGs in the league - Dyson, despite being only 18, show the promise of a future all-star With some offseason upgrades at the center position, we will be the favorites to win the West next season.
1. 100%
2. Second statement is hard to say, we were first in the west without our best playmaker. As stated in Peña’s The Ringer article today our core off ball players-Murphy, Herb and CJ are shooting 40% from 3 since March, when Ingram really got back in the groove. 10 games of CJ Zion and BI is not enough to determine this being a developmental year.
With 3 rotations guys at 30 or over(Jonas, CJ and an overused Larry Nance) you have to conclude the Pels were attempting to contend. The trade deadline did expose a change in course however.
3. I don’t see how the Pels can be favored without playoff experience for one of their pillars, unless he’s traded for a power forward that plays at an All Star level and is available for 75% of the season.
quote:
I'm not calling anyone a bad fan for being disappointed. Heck, I'm disappointed. But vicious insults against Zion because his body hasn't healed? Yeah, that makes someone a bad fan. Trashing the future of the team? That's just dumb, and it doesn't make anyone a good fan either.
You’re not wrong here.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:We don't technically know that but we do know that he is virtually 100% right now. He told us that. I also find the image you added with the perspective quote kinda funny given your OP title lacks perspective severely, but I digress.
We don't know if he had a second setback and didn't want people to know
quote:Do we? I'm not saying he does or doesn't, but we don't really know that. You may think that, but you do not know that.
What we do know is that Zion loves the game of basketball. He badly wants to play.
quote:What? Are you insinuating Pels Talk was completely ok with the BI thing and never insinuated he was mentally weak? Not sure what Pels Talk you were reading at the time of the BI thing, but your assertion is flat out false.
What we do know is that Brandon Ingram said some of the same things in his recovery. BI stayed out several games after he had been cleared because he wasn't ready yet. And, somehow, the talk about Zion being mentally weak is completely different than when BI said almost the exact same thing a couple of months ago (or when lots of other NBA players say the same thing).
quote:4 years with BI/Zion and we've finished 13th/11th/10th/9th. If you don't want to put that on Griff, that's fine. Then you have to put it all on Zion/BI and question our best 2 players. You can't be happy and applauding both Griff AND our top 2 players in the face of completely underwhelming results over the last 4 years.
The hate for Griff is baffling.
quote:No, we won't. You now that, no clue why you're saying we will when you know we absolutely will not be the West favorites next season. You're turning into Griff right now just outright lying to everyone
With some offseason upgrades at the center position, we will be the favorites to win the West next season.
quote:Probably should have clarified that in your OP instead of trying to tell everyone you're the only good Pels fan on this board
I'm not calling anyone a bad fan for being disappointed. Heck, I'm disappointed. But vicious insults against Zion because his body hasn't healed? Yeah, that makes someone a bad fan
And also, Zion told us his body is physically healed, so there's that too...
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:05 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:Right
I’ve defended Zion to the hilt but he really screwed himself today with how bad and immature he sounds. The kid needs to grow up and take some accountability for keeping his body in shape even when he’s rehabbing. You can tell he’s 15 lbs heavier than he was in January just by his face yesterday.
That's another thing GOP was off base on, saying people have "flip flopped" on Zion and were praising him in the past and now are no longer praising him.
Yea, that's how it works. In the face of new information, expectations change.
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