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re: TMIII says All-Star is a goal this season.

Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by Pelicans15
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:30 pm to
Well he get thru training camp with out getting hurt this year?
Posted by Safety Blitz
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:32 pm to
Boom…Finals incoming.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:53 am to
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We have 3 players that could potentially be All-Stars this year.


We should win 55 games then, right?
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:05 am to
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All star west starters


I think you mean just primarily based on fan voting, which is fair. But I believe there is a tide that is about to turn. A lot of the premier players in the West are super old, for basketball players. Time is undefeated and sooner or later those guys are going to fall off a cliff.

Take the Warriors. Three star players all at least 35 years old. Outside if those 3, maybe the worst depth in the league. If any of those 3 go down (which I believe at least 2 will), they will tank hard. Clippers are the same way, with 3 of their top 6 players at least 34.

Players can't play forever.

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Steph
Bron
Toní
Jokic
SGA


Either Doncic or Edwards bumps Curry this year.

If Wembenyama can stay moderately healthy, he's bumping Davis.

If James sours and misses major time early, he could slide off the 1st group too. The West front court selections aren't super loaded, but I could see someone like Sengun, Jalen Williams or even Zion making the leap up..


Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:38 am to
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Yes, all 3 of Zion, Trey, and Poole have a chance to be All Stars this year.


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Poole


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All star


Holy hell there’s optimism and then there’s whatever this is.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:18 am to
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We have 3 players that could potentially be All-Stars this year.
We should win 55 games then, right?

Is this supposed to be a trick question? If we stay 90% healthy for the season then yeah we can win 55games.

We were 49-33 in 23'-24' and our top 11 were:
Zion (Healthy, more experienced, better defense)
CJ (Poole has = or more upside)
BI (Murray can have more + impact on the team)
Trey (More experienced and better than 2yrs ago)
Herb (More experienced and better than 2yrs ago)
Dyson (If Peavy can give 60% production we cool)

Val (Slow on D/ not athletic. Missi/ Karlo more production combined)

Naji (Bey is better)
Nance (Looney can be just as good or better)
Jose (Added Fears, upside not comparable)
Hawk (Added Queen and Hawk CANT get worse)

Hawk/ Jose were our 10th/ 11th best players that year and the last 2 guys to play > 1,000 minutes. By the end of this year they should be #13/ #14 and may even get flipped for a better player worth 10mil.

Zion played 70 games that season and we were nowhere near as deep for depth. He can play 50/60 and we should still be close to that.

We don't even need any All stars to do that. Furthermore both of Poole/ Trey will shoot 10 3's a game which easily puts them into All Star capable status. A healthy Zion will always be an All star candidate.

No none of this Is crazy or dramatic, just not pessimistic and based off bullshite.

This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:57 am to
Zion/ Herb/ Trey now > 2 years ago

Missi/ Karlo/ Dickerson > Val/ Zeller

Bey = Naji

Looney = Nance

CJ/ BI = Poole/ Murray

Hawk/ Jose now > 2 years ago

Dyson > Peavy

Queen > nothing

Fears > nothing

If you break it down like that and give each category (1) point then we are +4 compared to the team that went 49-33. And really +5 because Bey > Naji in reality but we can call it a wash for this example.

We essentially got more mature but simultaneously younger and the main changes would be losing Dyson but adding all 3 of Peavy/ Queen/ Fears.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:58 am to
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No none of this Is crazy or dramatic, just not pessimistic and based off bullshite.


Vegas has our over/under at 29.5 wins and I’d hardly call the oddsmakers pessimistic or full of shite.

There should be no emotions in gambling, so if you believe what you post you should be all in bet the house on the over.

I’d be happy with 25 wins with this roster and take the mild improvement.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:11 pm to
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There should be no emotions in gambling, so if you believe what you post you should be all in bet the house on the over.

No shite I'd bet the house on 29.5wins.

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Vegas has our over/under at 29.5 wins and I’d hardly call the oddsmakers pessimistic or full of shite.


Yeah because oddsmakers don't ever miss their mark right? Oddsmakers will also base these odds on injury concerns and patterns. Zion playing 60-70 games blows that out of the water. I'd imagine those same oddmakers have a low O/U for games played on certain players. None of that means shite if we are healthy and I said that above.

Everything is based on a presumed injury past that may or may not actually happen. If you asked those odd makers to make the O/U with our team healthy for most of the year then your O/U would be closer to 45 which is fair.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:14 pm to
We don't know what we get this year because of injuries. We were 21-61 last year and could have easily won close to 30 games if we didn't shut our players down at the end of the year. That right there should tell you how fricking stupid the "oddmakers" you follow are. And you are even more fricking stupid for blindly posting that like it holds any weight. Like insane levels are retarded especially knowing we would have reached that last year without shutting people down on a way less talented team. Almost gives me a headache how fricking stupid that is. You should be embarrassed for even posting that.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11225 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Vegas has our over/under at 29.5 wins and I’d hardly call the oddsmakers pessimistic or full of shite


Did it go down? When I looked we were at 32.5, so an 11.5 game improvement. It was by far the largest projected leap by a team.

I'm going to hammer it too. Given the circumstances, I can't see us going under 36 wins. That's with the rookies getting limited minutes. I think we'll be closer to .500 though.

The sad part is that's not good enough for a lot of people on here. They want either a 50+ contender or an under 20 win tanking team (that they aren't going to watch anyway)..
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:45 pm to
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For the 2024–2025 NBA season, oddsmakers set the over/under for Zion Williamson at 30 games, which he played before being shut down due to a back injury

Sounds like the oddsmakers that already have a low O/U for our players are doubling down after a record level injury season.
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As of late August 2025, the New Orleans Pelicans' over/under (O/U) win total for the 2024–2025 season was set at 46.5 wins.

So 46wins in a record breaking injury season on a team that added depth to sustain more injuries? Sounds like the realistic O/U should be 45games as I said. Y'all should take advantage of these idiots and make money off them instead of using their opinions as factual.
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