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re: This town can become a Pelicans town

Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:20 am to
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:20 am to
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Getting AD to resign will be very tough
Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:24 am to
My body is play offs ready
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61442 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:29 am to
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Getting AD to resign will be very tough.


The NBA team that drafts you basically owns you for 7-9 years. We won't hit the point in the contract life cycle where he can leverage his way out a la CP3, Kevin Love, Dwight, etc. until 2020.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:32 am to
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Probably just arguing semantics at this point, but when I hear "the town can become a Pelicans town", I take that to mean the top team in the city.


The Saints are done by early February at the latest. Pelicans can easily be "top dog in the city" for 3-4 months before OTAs, training camp, and preseason ramp up.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8181 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:39 am to
Or even both at the same time. Look at cities like Boston and San Francisco, they not only have top level support for their basketball and football teams, but baseball as well. All of which overlap to some degree. Theres no reason rabid support for Pels and Saints can't exist side by side
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Kamtheman106
In that number.
Member since Mar 2012
404 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:59 am to
NOLA will never be "a Pelicans town" if you want to use that terminology. The Saints will always rule the city's identity.

But yes, NOLA can absolutely support an NBA team. There is no reason why the city can't have full-fledged Pelicans fever from Jan/Feb to June. I remember how frenzied Hornets games used to be with CP3 and that squad. The atmosphere last night on TV seemed like the closest thing it's been to '07/'08.
Posted by Smedium27
Bestbank
Member since Aug 2010
3517 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:02 pm to
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Whoisnickdoobs


Was last night the first Pelicans game you ever watched?
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:09 pm to
From David Fisher last night:
quote:

Electric. The Smoothie King Center was absolutely humming all game long. The game began slowly for the Pelicans and the Spurs were out to an early 4-0 lead. An Omer Asik dunk finally got New Orleans going and we were off. Everything on the court was difficult. The officials, understanding the meaning of the game and how each team would approach things, wisely elected to let the teams play. This was thankfully retained throughout the game. Regular season fouls were just contact ignored. Pushing, holding, and grabbing off the ball was liberally applied by both teams. Asik and Duncan looked like two kaiju battling over a meal for every single post-up by the Big Fundamental.

This played to the Pelicans advantage. A game with flow allows the crowd to stay up. New Orleans fans understood what the Pels needed all game long, even if the man running the in-game soundtrack was clueless. (Seriously, stop playing DAYO! Stop it. Now.) This city gets a bad wrap as a "bad" basketball town. Once upon a time that was also true for New Orleans Saints fans, shown almost exclusively wearing paper bags over their heads. Given the opportunity to support a winner, residents of the Big Easy filled the Blender to capacity.

If you win, they will come
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:10 pm to
If this team continues to play like they did last night consistently, fans will begin to believe. AD's star power really has no ceiling and he will probably be a bigger star than Drew Brees. The one thing that is concerning to me is seeing all these parents buying their kids apparel of other all stars and allowing them to wear it at Pels games. Hopefully this trend ended last night.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:24 pm to
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Or even both at the same time. Look at cities like Boston and San Francisco, they not only have top level support for their basketball and football teams, but baseball as well. All of which overlap to some degree. Theres no reason rabid support for Pels and Saints can't exist side by side
The only thing with these examples is, these are all established brands intertwined with that city for probably 50+ years for all of those. I think that's the difference as to why the Pels can't do that in the next few seasons.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:26 pm to
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and he will probably be a bigger star than Drew Brees.
Not bigger locally, not bigger than the guy that brought the Saints a Super Bowl.

He'll need to start collecting rings like MJ or Bill Russell to get near that territory.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:28 pm to
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I think that's the difference as to why the Pels can't do that in the next few seasons.

If we win a few playoff series and AD wins an MVP, things will change in a heartbeat.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:29 pm to
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If we win a few playoff series and AD wins an MVP, things will change in a heartbeat
Yes, things will change.

But things won't get to a Saints level with an MVP and a Western Conference Final trip, not even close.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:30 pm to
Sons don't question my fanhood.

I live in Lafayette and have made it to more Pelicans games than most New Orleanians.


Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:42 pm to
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But things won't get to a Saints level with an MVP and a Western Conference Final trip, not even close.

You're right. Things won't get on a Saints level because basketball and the Pels have some things working against them. The Saints have almost 50 years of being intertwined with this city, the Pelicans/Hornets have 15. The Saints fan footprint is a lot larger stretching from Houston to Pensacola and as far North as Arkansas. The biggest issue probably is the 41 home games and not a lot of coverage nationally.

I can only hope to see more consistent crowds of 12K+.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7945 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:49 pm to
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Not bigger locally, not bigger than the guy that brought the Saints a Super Bowl.

I think some of this changes when he retires back in San Diego. As great as the Super Bowl win was, a lot of fans are upset now because he isn't willing to budge on renegotiating his contract. This will always be a Saints city, but the light has been flickering on Drew lately. There is no reason why this city can't support both equally.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:54 pm to
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a lot of fans are upset now because he isn't willing to budge on renegotiating his contract.
These are the segment of fans you ignore, because this isn't true.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 5:57 pm to
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As great as the Super Bowl win was, a lot of fans are upset now because he isn't willing to budge on renegotiating his contract. 


Link?

Also, he's stated that he's willing to come to the table. The saints want to wait a year
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 11:17 pm to
Anyone denying the demonstrated potential is simply ignorant of the facts, either willfully or accidentally.

This team was 98% sold out for the season in 08-09, bought thousands of full season tickets while there was not basketball, and Louisiana produces basketball players at a normal-to-high rate and hall-of-famers at a high rate. These are just a few of the facts.

Saints or Pelicans: choose one... Is a false choice. Ask Benson.
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