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Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:17 pm to danman6336
Also, Bledsoe can play the 2
A guard rotation of Vasquez, Gordon, Bledsoe, and Rivers is pretty solid. All three can play both guard positions to some degree as well.
I'd be willing to get rid of Lopez and other scraps for that.
A guard rotation of Vasquez, Gordon, Bledsoe, and Rivers is pretty solid. All three can play both guard positions to some degree as well.
I'd be willing to get rid of Lopez and other scraps for that.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:22 pm to danman6336
Bledsoe isn't a good shooter. There is a reason he doesn't play the 2.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:23 pm to drake20
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he'll be better than Vasquez at everything except passing
just curious, what makes you say this?
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particularly defense
not sure what metrics everyone uses for defense, but GV has a higher defensive rating on NBA.com's stats crap than Bledsoe, FWIW. i know defensive metrics are flawed, though.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:26 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:Well judging by recent draft picks for the Hornets, SGs that can't shoot don't seem to be a big issue to the front office
Bledsoe isn't a good shooter. There is a reason he doesn't play the 2.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:41 pm to quail man
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not sure what metrics everyone uses for defense, but GV has a higher defensive rating on NBA.com's stats crap than Bledsoe, FWIW. i know defensive metrics are flawed, though.
doubles steals per game in 12 less minutes...and speed and quickness.
quote:
just curious, what makes you say this?
3.1 RPG to 4.5 in 12 less minutes
...higher FG%, 3-point %, and FT%
much better PER...it's a small sample, but I think he's ready to break out.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 4:42 pm to drake20
fair enough. just curious. 
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:01 pm to danman6336
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it's not like we couldn't upgrade from him pretty easily,
I totally disagree with this statement.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:08 pm to quail man
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not sure what metrics everyone uses for defense, but GV has a higher defensive rating on NBA.com's stats crap than Bledsoe, FWIW. i know defensive metrics are flawed, though.
It is definitely biased towards steals, but I think he has more steals than Vasquez. Vasquez is not as bad defensively as a lot of people believe. He is definitely slower than average, but he uses his size to compensate for it. He can also guard opposing 2s and even some 3s, so he has versatility on that end of the floor.
Now, he doesn't get a lot of steals, but he also doesn't take a lot of risks attacking passing lanes. That is one major way that defensive metrics are flawed. Sometimes steals result in diminished team defense. Stats without context.
Overall, the cost of upgrading at all significantly over Vasquez will cost significant assets AND money.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:09 pm to GynoSandberg
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Bledsoe isn't a good shooter. There is a reason he doesn't play t
I thought he was shooting like 42% from 3....
Eta - 42.9%, which is a 12% higher than his career average? Exception or new norm? I tend to think he is excelling with minimal pressure. Does it continue with pressure reapplied?
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:16 pm to Jester
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Overall, the cost of upgrading at all significantly over Vasquez will cost significant assets AND money.
Basically what I've been getting at. Much bigger concerns going forward. Now a solid, competent backup to him would be nice.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:20 pm to quail man
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Basically what I've been getting at. Much bigger concerns going forward. Now a solid, competent backup to him would be nice.
Absolutely! Hell, bring in a top notch backup that may compete for the starting job at some point. The instant upgrade mentality is not legit, though.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:39 pm to Jester
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I thought he was shooting like 42% from 3.... Eta - 42.9%, which is a 12% higher than his career average? Exception or new norm? I tend to think he is excelling with minimal pressure. Does it continue with pressure reapplied?
ya, he's 24 of 56 from beyond the arc this season.
...i think he's gonna be a very good player once he gets that starting job. he will excel, imo.
I like Vasquez--not in favor of losing him...but if that's the direction the team goes, i think Bledsoe would be a great get.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:46 pm to Jester
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Eta - 42.9%, which is a 12% higher than his career average? Exception or new norm? I tend to think he is excelling with minimal pressure. Does it continue with pressure reapplied?
He averages one 3 attempt a game. I think if he was such a good 3 point shooter, he'd be jacking them up a bit more frequently.
He's started 12 games this season.
14.2 PPG
5.3 APG
4.8 RPG
40.5 FG%
43.8 3P% (7 for 16)
79.6 FT%
Is he better than Vasquez? Sure.
Is the expense to acquire him to replace GV worth it? Not in my opinion. He reminds me too much of Darren Collison.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:48 pm to GynoSandberg
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He reminds me too much of Darren Collison.
I've actually been trying like hell not to make the Collison comparison, but it just seems to fit. quote:
He averages one 3 attempt a game. I think if he was such a good 3 point shooter, he'd be jacking them up a bit more frequently.
Yeah, I didn't pay any attention to attempts. Does seem like a pretty small sample size and sans fatigue.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 2/26/13 at 5:53 pm to Jester
Frankly, I think Collison is better than Bledsoe.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 6:23 pm to GynoSandberg
I think Vasquez is better for our roster than either of them.
Posted on 2/26/13 at 6:36 pm to Jester
I know you do.
Im content with GV but it would be interesting to see what a guy like Collison or Bledsoe could do with this team. They might not match GV's assists numbers but they would bring a different dynamic to the team.
Im content with GV but it would be interesting to see what a guy like Collison or Bledsoe could do with this team. They might not match GV's assists numbers but they would bring a different dynamic to the team.
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