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Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:49 am to MyMardiGrasHat
This is the most selfish basketball team I’ve ever seen. Everyone is just trying to get theirs. They don’t care about winning or making the right play. The rotations are horrendous. There’s no structured offense, it’s all iso ball. Queen is the only guy I’ve been impressed with. He seems like he gives a shite and makes the right basketball play most of the time. Fears is a complete disaster. It’s obvious he’s not a PG. he’s a SG in a PG’s body. He doesn’t know how to run an offense and his court vision is terrible. Queen has a better chance of being a starting PG in the NBA than Fears
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:52 am to Balsamic_duck
Agree with everything OP said.
I am also giving myself credit for paying to watch this shite show.
I am also giving myself credit for paying to watch this shite show.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 10:57 am to Tank77
quote:Not good but largely as expected.
Takeaways from first 4
1-3 was always the best we would have been after 4 games.
We were the underdog in all 4, so this is par for the course for a team devoid of talent like the Pels.
They're a 12 to 14 seed team. They always have been.
Your 2 best players should be taking 40 shots per game. Zion/Trey are taking 23 shots per game combined. Neither dude have it in them to be the best player on a team, or the 2nd best honestly. And yet they're 1 and 2...not good, Bob!
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Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:01 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Half of the rotation are dudes who are only useful with the ball in their hands, and let's be honest, a couple of those aren't even useful at that.
This is the most selfish basketball team I’ve ever seen.
Zion
Poole
Mathurin
Queen
Fears
These dudes have nothing to offer on offense without the ball in their hands. And honestly, outside of Zion and Queen, the other 3 don't offer much with the ball in their hands either.
Couple that with a terrible defense, which was expected given the roster, this team was always going to be a 12 to 14 seed in the West.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:04 am to TeddyPadillac
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and they need to get some of them out of there b/c you can see the attitudes on the court and it ain't working.
Murphy has always played with Herb and they were also drafted together. Do you think he feeling some type of way that Herb got benched for Fears?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:06 am to duyp
quote:The real issues is Murray/Fears, that's the biggest problem right now.
Murphy has always played with Herb and they were also drafted together. Do you think he feeling some type of way that Herb got benched for Fears?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:26 am to shel311
That too. I feel like the offense stagnates at time where everyone just stay still. Fears and Murray each have a habit of doing that. You see the best teams always constantly moving the ball. We were killing Denver in transition. I’m surprised we went away from it.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:27 am to shel311
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The real issues is Murray/Fears, that's the biggest problem right now.
Well they were terrible together last year when they played together, as was DQ and Zion.
It is so stupid that they went into this season not moving Murray before it started. It was idiotic to think we should be trying to win right now instead of starting over and developing.
Zion looks good right now. He needs to be traded before he gets hurt.
Herb is an easy one to move, and you'll get a 1st for him.
There is zero reason to move Poole b/c no one will give up anything for him unless they are going to trade away a guy making $30M+ who has a longer contract and isnt' wanted either, which i'd be ok with if it meant we got some assets out of it. They should have worked on a buyout this offseason with him.
Murray is kind of similar in that it will be difficult to move him and actually get back some assets b/c of his contract.
I'd move Trey as well, but i'd want back picks and there aren't a lot of suitors out there that can give up picks and send back $25+M that they don't want.
We should be talking to GSW to get Porzingis and filler for Missi and someone like Murray or Trey. I'm sure GSW would much rather Missi than Porzingis, who simply can't be relied on to stay healthy.
I'd like to see them move Trey/Missi for Porzingis/Moody and some 1sts.
Move Herb to Portland for Scoot and see if you can get something out of him giving him a fresh new start.
Just cut Poole.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:32 am to Tank77
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Anything else?
The more things change(ish) the more they stay the same.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:40 am to TeddyPadillac
Poole has been doing well this season actually. Plus he’s an expiring after this year. I know Murray wants to play with Herb and talked about him a lot when he joined the Pelicans. I love Fears but he needs to go back on the bench because he works so well with Queen.
I’m in the minority and want to keep Zion. Look at how efficient he was in the 1H and he looks like the guy who we drafted. Murray and Fears iced him out yesterday after he hit that 3.
I’m not giving up on the season yet, we still got a lot of time to turn things around.
I’m in the minority and want to keep Zion. Look at how efficient he was in the 1H and he looks like the guy who we drafted. Murray and Fears iced him out yesterday after he hit that 3.
I’m not giving up on the season yet, we still got a lot of time to turn things around.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:00 pm to MyMardiGrasHat
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He did a better job guarding Joker last night then Jordan did
Some of his best games have been against Jokic/ Wemby
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Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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It is so stupid that they went into this season not moving Murray before it started. It was idiotic to think we should be trying to win right now instead of starting over and developing.
These are 2 separate issues. Z/ Murray did not have great trade value going into the season. We had to wait for that value or need to increase. So far it actually looks good from that POV.
I'm more pissed we didn't trade high on Herb/ Trey or trade Poole in general.
I'd rather keep Murray > Z/ Trey/ Herb even if him and Fears have to play separately. He can do the most and can lead the offense. Yeah he looked rough last night but he also helped keep us in the first few games.
Z/ Trey/ Herb/ Poole should have a value of about (5) 1sts and $110mil in space. Do something
Posted on 10/29/26 at 1:02 pm to Broski
They suck nothing else good to say.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:46 pm to duyp
quote:He's shooting 19% from the field
Poole has been doing well this season actually.
quote:He doesn't positively affect winning.
’m in the minority and want to keep Zion.
quote:He legit looks nothing like year 2 Zion, like....nothing. It's been widely discussed by just about every NBA dude I follow how he's lost that burst he used to have, we don't see that explosive quick 2nd jump he used to have. He's a shell of year 2 Zion, and the stats bear that out.
Look at how efficient he was in the 1H and he looks like the guy who we drafted.
quote:He doesn't have a well rounded game to be able to just give him the ball and he goes win you a game. Evidence of this is year 8, and he's scored 40 points in a game twice in his entire career. Even 30 points, he's only done 59 times, that's less than 10x a season. It's surprising when Zion scores 30.
Murray and Fears iced him out yesterday after he hit that 3.
quote:The team lacks talent and doesn't fit. They're cooked.
I’m not giving up on the season yet, we still got a lot of time to turn things around.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:05 pm to shel311
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Poole has been doing well this season actually.
He's shooting 19% from the field
last night he was in the near the corner and a offensive rebound bounced his way down the baseline and went out of bounds. He could have easily jumped and saved it but he literally just looked at the ball bounce out of bounds a few feet from him and didn't move.
The attitude from just about everyone on this team is horrible. And i thought Zion actually looked pretty good last night, and wanted to play, and wanted to win, and was actually giving effort defensively. More evidence that it's absolutely time to trade him asap while he's looking good before he gets hurt. Major changes need to happen to this team before the new year, and they need to identify what the frick they actually want to do with the future of this team, not this year, but looking at the next 2-3 years. Unfortunately we have an incompetent GM and a dumbass clueless owner.
I'll still watch games from time to time b/c I can't help myself, but this is hands down the least exciting i've ever been for my team, and i've been a fan since the inception of the team in New Orleans. I'd rather watch and be a fan of the Knicks right now.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:16 pm to shel311
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He legit looks nothing like year 2 Zion, like....nothing. It's been widely discussed by just about every NBA dude I follow how he's lost that burst he used to have, we don't see that explosive quick 2nd jump he used to have. He's a shell of year 2 Zion, and the stats bear that out.
He’s averaging 21.8 on 60% fg and 43% on 3pt.
I honestly think he could score 30+ if he wasn’t so unselfish with the ball. He even stated that when he misses the shot back then, it messes up his confidence. He should be the leading guy along with Murphy on FGA but instead it’s Fears and Murray.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
I wonder if that’s was when his ankle was feeling sore to where he didn’t want to save it. But Poole has been surprisingly good on defense. I don’t think he’s the issue tbh.
Surprisingly Queen and Poole are top 5 in defensive rating currently.
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Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:08 pm to duyp
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But Poole has been surprisingly good on defense. I don’t think he’s the issue tbh.
He's an expiring who won't be on this team next year. It's pointless for him to even be on this team, much less play, and i say that as someone who likes the guy.
Murray and Fears were terrible together last year. Murray's worse teammate as far as netrtg together was with Fears. They dont' need to share the court, at all.
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Surprisingly Queen and Poole are top 5 in defensive rating currently.
I told y'all all offseason that DQ is not a bad defender. Not saying he's some juggernaut, but he can be a good defender with the right cast around him. I do think he far too often plays defense standing up right too much. More than likely b/c he's out of shape and tired, and/or lazy. That bothers me.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:43 am to duyp
quote:It's not unselfishness, it's him not having that mindset.
I honestly think he could score 30+ if he wasn’t so unselfish with the ball.
He doesn't have that killer mentality where he'll demand the ball and F the play call and tell everyone to get out the way, like all the 30+ ppg scorers do.
He just doesn't have that in him.
He has a very limited skillset but I certainly agree that that skill set could average 30ppg. But Zion WIlliamson cannot average 30ppg. I think he scores 30 points something like 20% of the time over his career, once every 5 games. That's too big of a gulf to become a 30ppg scorer.
quote:Murray needs to be traded ASAP or have his minutes severely reduced so Fears can develop, go through the growing pains with him. We're going to end up playing Murray as the point, limiting minutes and opportunities for Fears and probably basically waste a season of development for Fears.
He should be the leading guy along with Murphy on FGA but instead it’s Fears and Murray.
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