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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:51 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:Bingo
He doesn’t report any conversations about moving Zion. He speculates “should the pelicans consider moving Zion?” If shams was told there are internal conversations about moving Zion, that’s what he would have reported.
ETA: Y’all realize he and Woj fight over these things right? He’s not going to let a story like “the pelicans are shopping Zion” fall into Woj’s hands
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:51 pm to Pels_Yaz
Zion is the flashier of the two names. Flashy names get more clicks
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.
agree but then why even mention Zion and not BI? The fact he specifically mentioned Zion is interesting. Probably because Hornets want him
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:53 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:maybe you send Herb to Toronto? Idk I’m sure there’s more moving pieces to this speculative trade scenario
So we gonna run CJ, OG, BI, Herb, Trey @ the 5. Then have Dyson off the bench, with Scoot, JV? that is comical.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:53 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:
He doesn’t report any conversations about moving Zion. He speculates “should the pelicans consider moving Zion?
Shams is a news breaker, he's not a talking head analyst trying to fill time. If he mentioned Zion he did it for a reason. That reason most likely is Charlotte asked him to.
Has this thread let itself run away with speculation? Yes.
And?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:54 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Eh, he has a TV show where does do a little talking head type stuff.
Shams is a news breaker, he's not a talking head analyst trying to fill time.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:54 pm to TigerinATL
He did break news that we were going after scoop hard. That’s the news dude.
ETA: also, if his goal was to say that Charlotte wants Zion or that the Pels are thinking of trading Zion, then the headline wouldn’t be “pelicans are trying to get scoop.”
ETA: also, if his goal was to say that Charlotte wants Zion or that the Pels are thinking of trading Zion, then the headline wouldn’t be “pelicans are trying to get scoop.”
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:57 pm to shel311
So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:I'm telling you what Shams did and did not report, you're making the assumptions
So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.
I'm going to assume that if Zion for Scoot were a real thing in the works we either wouldn't be hearing about it at all, or the reporting would sound different than a one sided leak by Charlotte.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:00 pm to Pels_Yaz
No, he’s just saying that it doesn’t matter what Charlotte wants. Who doesn’t want Zion?
The only thing that matters is what the pelicans front office wants, which none of us know
The only thing that matters is what the pelicans front office wants, which none of us know
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Soggymoss
Sounds like damage control to distract for his boy Zion and his embarrassing past week or so. 
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:09 pm to shel311
“Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.” - this is not what Shams reported. You are assuming this from his report. Dont call people out on assumptions when you do the same.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:10 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
I just don’t get why we’re being so quick to give up franchise players when we have something like 5 1sts and 3 swaps in our back pocket.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:12 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
But your assuming from his report it is strictly based on what Charlotte wants. Shams never reported or said that either. We dont know where this leak came from, these all are assumptions honestly.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:13 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:I was "literally" recapping your assumptions in what you just quoted.
“Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.” - this is not what Shams reported. You are assuming this from his report. Dont call people out on assumptions when you do the same.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:13 pm to TigerinATL
Or Charlotte has that offer and wants other teams to give like minded offers or more. Honestly who knows.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:14 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:Right, and one side is saying there has been nothing reported so there is nothing to suggestion Zion's name is in discussions but the other side, you, are saying this "definitely" means something is up with Zion being discussed in trade talks.
But your assuming from his report it is strictly based on what Charlotte wants. Shams never reported or said that either. We dont know where this leak came from, these all are assumptions honestly.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:15 pm to Pels_Yaz
If Charlotte had an offer that included Zion, the deal would be have done. No one is offering anything close to a player of Zion's caliber.
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