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re: Shams says Pelicans are “aggressively pursuing” a top 2-3 pick for Scoot

Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by supe12sta12z
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:50 pm to
So we gonna run CJ, OG, BI, Herb, Trey @ the 5. Then have Dyson off the bench, with Scoot, JV? that is comical.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:51 pm to
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He doesn’t report any conversations about moving Zion. He speculates “should the pelicans consider moving Zion?” If shams was told there are internal conversations about moving Zion, that’s what he would have reported.

ETA: Y’all realize he and Woj fight over these things right? He’s not going to let a story like “the pelicans are shopping Zion” fall into Woj’s hands
Bingo
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:51 pm to
Zion is the flashier of the two names. Flashy names get more clicks
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:52 pm to
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agree but then why even mention Zion and not BI? The fact he specifically mentioned Zion is interesting. Probably because Hornets want him
Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:53 pm to
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So we gonna run CJ, OG, BI, Herb, Trey @ the 5. Then have Dyson off the bench, with Scoot, JV? that is comical.
maybe you send Herb to Toronto? Idk I’m sure there’s more moving pieces to this speculative trade scenario
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:53 pm to
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He doesn’t report any conversations about moving Zion. He speculates “should the pelicans consider moving Zion?


Shams is a news breaker, he's not a talking head analyst trying to fill time. If he mentioned Zion he did it for a reason. That reason most likely is Charlotte asked him to.

Has this thread let itself run away with speculation? Yes.

And?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Shams is a news breaker, he's not a talking head analyst trying to fill time.
Eh, he has a TV show where does do a little talking head type stuff.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:54 pm to
He did break news that we were going after scoop hard. That’s the news dude.

ETA: also, if his goal was to say that Charlotte wants Zion or that the Pels are thinking of trading Zion, then the headline wouldn’t be “pelicans are trying to get scoop.”
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:57 pm to
So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm to
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So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.
I'm telling you what Shams did and did not report, you're making the assumptions
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 12:59 pm to
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So you’re going to assume that Charlotte brought Zion on the table and Griffin shut it down because thats what you would do. Got it.


I'm going to assume that if Zion for Scoot were a real thing in the works we either wouldn't be hearing about it at all, or the reporting would sound different than a one sided leak by Charlotte.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:00 pm to
No, he’s just saying that it doesn’t matter what Charlotte wants. Who doesn’t want Zion?


The only thing that matters is what the pelicans front office wants, which none of us know
Posted by Geauxgurt
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:08 pm to
Sounds like damage control to distract for his boy Zion and his embarrassing past week or so.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:09 pm to
“Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.” - this is not what Shams reported. You are assuming this from his report. Dont call people out on assumptions when you do the same.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:10 pm to
I just don’t get why we’re being so quick to give up franchise players when we have something like 5 1sts and 3 swaps in our back pocket.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:12 pm to
But your assuming from his report it is strictly based on what Charlotte wants. Shams never reported or said that either. We dont know where this leak came from, these all are assumptions honestly.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112916 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:13 pm to
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“Sounds nothing to do with the Pelicans FO potentially discussing Zion, only Charlotte. Got it.” - this is not what Shams reported. You are assuming this from his report. Dont call people out on assumptions when you do the same.

I was "literally" recapping your assumptions in what you just quoted.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:13 pm to
Or Charlotte has that offer and wants other teams to give like minded offers or more. Honestly who knows.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112916 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:14 pm to
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But your assuming from his report it is strictly based on what Charlotte wants. Shams never reported or said that either. We dont know where this leak came from, these all are assumptions honestly.

Right, and one side is saying there has been nothing reported so there is nothing to suggestion Zion's name is in discussions but the other side, you, are saying this "definitely" means something is up with Zion being discussed in trade talks.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13310 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 1:15 pm to
If Charlotte had an offer that included Zion, the deal would be have done. No one is offering anything close to a player of Zion's caliber.
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