Rebuild

We have been saying that since the Chris Paul trade tbh.

Yeah, we reloaded with shoo shoo arse ammo.

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I bet we are one of the top 10 oldest teams in the league.

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8th youngest roster by average age

Yeah, that is surprising to me. I was thinking about Redick, Bledsoe, Melli and Adams who all are way past 27. Ball and Ingram are still young, but this is their 4th and 5th seasons. Hart is at least 25 (wasn't he a 4 year college guy?). Zion, NAW, Lewis and Hayes must pull that number way down. But Zion is the only one really playing right now.

But I guess I missed on that one. Just doesn't seem like a young team to me..

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Zion, NAW, Lewis and Hayes must pull that number way down. But Zion is the only one really playing right now.

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Give Kira minutes

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This is not a young team. The only "young" contributor is Zion. Everybody else is 4+ years into their careers.

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This dude for real doesn't think that BI is a young player.

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Ingram is in his 5th season and almost halfway through his career. He won't be in the league by the time he is 30. I don't know why people think its normal for players to play into their 30 or that a players prime is like 27.

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So you think Ingram is retiring at 28? And that is a normal career arc for young all star players? He’ll be playing until 32-36 barring major injury, and he’ll likely only be hitting his peak at 26-28.

Whatever data you are basing this analysis on, you are doing it wrong.

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Average NBA career is less than 3 years.

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Because the average NBA player is a statistical result skewed by data that doesn’t distinguish between busts and non-busts. The majority of people drafted or signed do not make it in the league and they skew the data. Same with the NFL. You need to know how to filter and contextualize data properly

You are applying measurements resulting from
unfiltered data to a category of player that properly filtered would produce a much different result.

This is like taking the overall average NFL QB career(3 years) and absurdly trying to argue back in 2006 that Drew Brees career is basically over because QBs only play a few years. No, QB’s that don’t bust out or get kicked out due to injury and demonstrate the ability to play at a high level tend to play for over a decade. Same for good NBA players.

Here’s an example, NBA players that average at least one all star appearance have an average career length of roughly 12 seasons going back to the 1950’s. Which honestly should by filtered further to the modern era where players come out earlier and stay longer.

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A players prime is around 24. They go into physical decline at 25-26.

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Again, no.

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The consensus research says a peak around 26-28 followed by a precipitous decline starting in a players early 30’s. Which is why it is often spoken of that handing out major long-term veteran contracts to non-superstars over the age of 29 is a dangerous game, because the likelihood of a major decline in their early thirties is high and it turns their contract into a toxic asset.

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That is all a statistical certainty. Now I'm sure people can bust in with anecdotal anomalies. But it just isn't the norm..

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Being able to apply statistics correctly is paramount.

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I bet we are one of the top 10 oldest teams

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DERP

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I’ve noticed this board mentions, “they young and we rebuilding” quite a lot. It feels like we been saying that for ten years now. At some point they need to grow up and win. Just tired of hearing that crap excuse with this organization.

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Well when you rebuild poorly, you have to keep trying to rebuild.

And we have rebuilt poorly.

Time will tell if the Griffin era rebuilds correctly. So far it is a very very mixed bag but it is a multi-year process.

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I’ve noticed this board mentions, “they young and we rebuilding” quite a lot. It feels like we been saying that for ten years now. At some point they need to grow up and win. Just tired of hearing that crap excuse with this organization.

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At some point they need to grow up and win.

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This is partly the mindset that is behind why Demps failed as a GM. He was in a rush to win now with a young future star in AD. He made a lot of win now moves and the only one that truly paid off was Jrue, in which was looking very shaky in itself for an extended period of time.

This roster is flawed and Griffin is trying to balance out being able to win with what seems to be a lot on individual talent on paper, while simultaneously developing our young talent. This team is probably 2 offseasons away from a more complete version of this roster. Lonzo ultimately may have made a mistake not accepting the extension because he probably isn't long for this roster. The same could be said for Bledsoe. The best version of this team is a point guard that can be a secondary ball-handler and is a good off-ball shooter (Ironically, we had that in George Hill) and a Center that can somewhat space the floor and is a big enough body to bang against AD, Jokic, and Nurkic's of the world.

As fans we are impatient and we see a team that is extremely talented but they are very flawed. Those fixes likely won't take place prior to this offseason.