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re: Queen has conditioning issues. Sound familiar?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:48 pm to Dantheman504
Posted on 6/27/25 at 9:48 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Process vs Results.
We gave up a fantasy that isn't actually real for an actual top 10 talent. If that bothers you so much before even knowing the talent level or outcome then I'm sorry you are that weak minded.
That top 3 pick doesn't exist and the top 10 player does. Those are the facts.
The process was abysmal.
Your logic is similar to thinking lucking into Flagg helps the Mavs case for trading Luka.
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 10:07 pm to Ghost Of Bristow
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What's this "we" stuff? Every single one of your posts are negative. Why are you a fan? Why are you here? Where do you live?
quote: AOC4PREZ2028
Are you not smart enough to even see who he was responding to??
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:15 pm to Dantheman504
That top 3 pick doesn't exist and the top 10 player does. Those are the facts.
Saying it’s a FACT that Queen is a top 10 talent is ridiculous. How can you not understand, regardless of how good Queen might end up being, that we gave up an absurd amount to move up from 23 to 13 in the first round? The entire league is laughing at our front office for paying that price.
Saying it’s a FACT that Queen is a top 10 talent is ridiculous. How can you not understand, regardless of how good Queen might end up being, that we gave up an absurd amount to move up from 23 to 13 in the first round? The entire league is laughing at our front office for paying that price.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 6:18 am to supe12sta12z
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What's your point? He has credited UM for teaching him how to eat right and work on his body.
Point is, he went to one of the best basketball Highschools and played with 4 other first round picks.
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He didn't know how to eat or work on his body in highschool which isn't surprising.
It’s best surprising when you go to a highschool that has more resources than most D1 colleges.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 7:16 am to Geauxgurt
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He’s an older player for his college experience, so it’s not like you are getting an 18-year old with plenty of room to grow.
The guy is 20.5. The average age in the first round this year was 20 years and 229 days. So he is younger than the average. It’s not like the dude is Chris Weinke.
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:14 am to Geauxgurt
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#11-15 picks turning into an all star is less than 15% or something along those lines.
So you are saying a 33% chance is worse than a 15% chance.
Most of those successes went to teams with stable leadership and good to great coaching. That is not the case in NoLa.
In the end, ignore reality and actual statistics to force people to accept stupidity.
If you're going to try to attack my point with statistics, maybe provide some actual statistics instead of stuff you admittedly made up. You can't cite a statistic and then qualify it with "or something along those lines."
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:27 pm to Ghost Of Bristow
Surprise surprise.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 3:33 pm to shel311
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Process vs Results.
The process was abysmal.
Your logic is similar to thinking
Yes process vs results. The process may have been abysmal but that can't be confirmed until we actually see the results. And that IS my logic...
We can see results from Queen this year. We can't see the results of a player that will be picked next year in a draft position that is unknown. So why would that even matter at this current time?
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lucking into Flagg helps the Mavs case for trading Luka.
I don't get this example considering I don't think it was luck and I think trading Luka was the case for getting Flagg.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 6:57 am to Ghost Of Bristow
Out of shape and now injured. It’s going to be a pattern, most of us saw this coming.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 7:23 am to Geauxldilocks
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Out of shape and now injured. It’s going to be a pattern, most of us saw this coming.
He hurt his wrist. How does that have anything to do with his conditioning?
He can still run, train, and be ready for the beginning of the season. In a way, I think the injury is a good thing. He has to be rehabbed, so he'll be monitored. He can't go away for a month or two and ballon up. This stuff happens and it is good to identify weaknesses early..
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:09 am to Dantheman504
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I don't get this example considering I don't think it was luck and I think trading Luka was the case for getting Flagg.
You lost me here man
Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:50 am to NawlinsTiger9
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You lost me here man
He is saying that my logic is similar to a Mavs fan thinking that getting lucky for Flagg helps their defense of making the Luka trade seem like a good move.
When in reality I believe they were given Flagg specifically for trading Luka. Much like I think we were given Zion for trading AD.
Which means that is not a good analogy for my logic.
In reality he is saying "process vs results" which is a terrible argument because neither Mavs or Pels have been able to provide any "results" to even make that decision.
I'm not saying I will be right, just saying it's ignorant to conclude I'm wrong with 0 data. He is trying to make my logic more complicated when its simply "we don't know and there's a chance it goes well". Which you'd think would be a fairly normal take but not on here.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:04 am to Dantheman504
To sum it up its "Schrödinger's cat" except if Schrödinger was biased and pessimistic and always assumed the cat was just dead.
Which defeats the purpose of the entire "experiment". So why be a Pelicans fan if this is you?
If you are like this because you are sick of us being garbage then maybe hope that it goes well instead of praying for our downfall.
A little philosophy:
If peolple revolt against a bad government then the citizens would be "praying for their downfall" but in reality the end goal would be to replace them with something better.
If you are just praying for the downfall and don't want to replace it with something better than you are just an anarchist...
So anyone that wants to cry about our struggles but also refuses to see upside in Fears, Queen, Missi, etcc are simply a lost cause.
Which defeats the purpose of the entire "experiment". So why be a Pelicans fan if this is you?
If you are like this because you are sick of us being garbage then maybe hope that it goes well instead of praying for our downfall.
A little philosophy:
If peolple revolt against a bad government then the citizens would be "praying for their downfall" but in reality the end goal would be to replace them with something better.
If you are just praying for the downfall and don't want to replace it with something better than you are just an anarchist...
So anyone that wants to cry about our struggles but also refuses to see upside in Fears, Queen, Missi, etcc are simply a lost cause.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:14 pm to Dantheman504
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and I think trading Luka was the case for getting Flagg.
quote:1.8%
I don't think it was luck
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