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re: Pels meeting with Rondo
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:48 pm to THRILLHO
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:48 pm to THRILLHO
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Reggie Jackson is not a good outside shooter. He never has been. In his best years he's been average at best from outside.
They're adamant about Jrue playing off the ball, you want a PG that can do both. That's what Gentry has been championing for.
Jackson has been at 35% from 3 the last two years. I mean, this thread is full of people saying we are ok from 3 with our other shooters shooting similar percentages. And that's assuming Cousins and Crawford can actually shoot the 3 efficiently and not 1 year wonders. Gotta show us
And Thrilly, I don't think it's the end of the world to add a rondo. I agree with most of your sentiments. Hill was terrible from the corner and on open 3s last year, though. If he improves then I can buy it a bit more ETA and Moore needs to shoot more!
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 1:51 pm
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:49 pm to therick711
He may not be a good free throw shooter. But he isnt Asik.
Teams cant just foul him, and make him shoot.
If they chase him for a foul at the end of games, he will shake loose and make a play for AD or Boogie.
Rondo is a true ball handler, not some big man who shouldnt be touching the ball/the defense forced the ball to.
Teams cant just foul him, and make him shoot.
If they chase him for a foul at the end of games, he will shake loose and make a play for AD or Boogie.
Rondo is a true ball handler, not some big man who shouldnt be touching the ball/the defense forced the ball to.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:57 pm to P bean
I'm genuinely surprised more people don't see signing Rondo to a one year deal at this point in FA when Boogie says he really wants him as a slam dunk move
Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:59 pm to Fun Bunch
@wojespn: RT @BobbyMarks42: New Orleans is $6M below the tax but have $4.5M in non-guaranteed money as a buffer. Pelicans have $7M+ of the full ML available....
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:00 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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quit on the celtics, getting himself traded
Traded because they were rebuilding and he was valuable
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asked to leave the mavs.
this is the only one I'll give you. It didn't work out the way the Mavs hoped because he didn't see eye to eye with Carlisle
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sucked on the kings, padding his assist totals and losing games.
Had 6 triple-doubles, career high in assists and rebounds. Most games started in a season by a kings player. Set kings records for assists in a game and in a season. No one could push this organization to win games. They're one of the worst run franchises in all of sports.
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sucked on the bulls
Had a below average regular season but was probably the sole reason a lackluster bulls team almost knocked off the Celtics.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:00 pm to GynoSandberg
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and Moore needs to shoot more!
Like Jrue, he struggled post Boogie. I don't know how to find the exact splits and don't feel like doing the math, but looking at per month production, he was shooting ~39% from 3 pre ASB, then shot ~31% post. He'll get open looks, so he does need to be more aggressive with them.
And we may still bring back DC, who is an adequate defender at the 3 and can hit those open corner shots if you want spacing at the 3 with Rondo running things.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:00 pm to DeionDeion
Agreed. we desperately need another ball handler, otherwise we only have Jrue. And Jrue can be turnover prone, even in his allstar season.
Additionally, its not like thats all we will do. If we get Rondo we will still be chasing shooters.
We are trying to sign Rondo for cheap, in hopes that he will want to play with Boogie and AD
Additionally, its not like thats all we will do. If we get Rondo we will still be chasing shooters.
We are trying to sign Rondo for cheap, in hopes that he will want to play with Boogie and AD
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:03 pm to DeionDeion
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I'm genuinely surprised more people don't see signing Rondo to a one year deal at this point in FA when Boogie says he really wants him as a slam dunk move
The most games a Boogie led team has won is 33 games. Frankly he doesn't know shite about shite and signing rondo for 1 year does nothing for him long term
Let's leave it to Dell and Gentry to find a correct fit, even with as inept as they've been
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:07 pm to GynoSandberg
I still don't like Rondo but I've resigned myself to this move and think it COULD be a help. Its a one year deal. No biggie.
I still hope we can add a shooter somehow.
I still hope we can add a shooter somehow.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:09 pm to JetsetNuggs
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Traded because they were rebuilding and he was valuable
so you're saying they sold high on a player who was overrated and still could get a return? he was an average player getting a superstar salary at the time of trade. he's been on three teams since. who seems to have won that trade?
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Had 6 triple-doubles, career high in assists and rebounds. Most games started in a season by a kings player. Set kings records for assists in a game and in a season. No one could push this organization to win games. They're one of the worst run franchises in all of sports.
stats on a shite team. triple doubles mean nothing, specifically when you're basically just dribbling around padding stats. he was unplayable in the fourth quarter. how does this help an aspiring playoff team? that their starting pg can't stay on the floor. and can't drive because he doesn't want to be fouled.
he has been at or below the league average in PER for five of the last six seasons.
like i said, at the vet minimum maybe you take him. last year, he was nearly closer to a replacement level player than a league average player.
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Had a below average regular season but was probably the sole reason a lackluster bulls team almost knocked off the Celtics.
so for two games, he helped the bulls nearly beat a team that would be the 7th seed in the west. he was so integral, that same team didn't want him back.
and from purely a basketball perspective, having someone that people play to drive and try to keep from penetrating with zero to no chance off of a pull up 3, on a team with two PF/C's and no other shooters makes little sense. you have everyone else helping sag to double AD/DC and Rondo's man can just hang back with no repercussions. Oh yeah, and the spots that rondo wants to go, are where AD and DC are already standing.
seems like a good signing to me.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:11 pm to P bean
Another take on the Rondo move. Regardless of how you feel about him, he's got way more playoff experience than anyone else on the Pels roster.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:14 pm to P bean
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He may not be a good free throw shooter. But he isnt Asik.
Teams cant just foul him, and make him shoot.
He shoots about 5-7% better than Asik. That's still hack-a-whatever territory.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:16 pm to GynoSandberg
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The most games a Boogie led team has won is 33 games. Frankly he doesn't know shite about shite and signing rondo for 1 year does nothing for him long term
Dell isn't going after Rondo just because Boogie said so. If that was the case, we'd have Ty Lawson and Rudy Gay. Probably even Justin Holiday.
Signing him actually does a lot. I think it at least makes us a playoff lock while not tying up money in the long term (Even though I'm fairly certain they'd get into the playoffs without him)
You know what would do nothing in the long term? Missing the playoffs
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:16 pm to therick711
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He shoots about 5-7% better than Asik. That's still hack-a-whatever territory.
frick yeah it is. not to mention, you SEE it if you watch him. he starts playing scared at the end of games. he doesn't want to get fouled. he stops driving. he passes earlier in the shotclock.
all these are just problems with his game. this has nothing to do with his rep as a problem child.
why people might be excited about this from anything other than a veteran or reuniting kentucky players perspective.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:18 pm to LSU Fan 90812
"Excited" is an overstatement.
He is a player who possesses some skills we need and won't frick us long term if he comes in for a year, as opposed to trading for Reggie or sending a pick for Lin.
He is a player who possesses some skills we need and won't frick us long term if he comes in for a year, as opposed to trading for Reggie or sending a pick for Lin.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:24 pm to LSU Fan 90812
I'm not calling it a slam dunk move or anything, but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. I'd prefer Rondo on a cheap 1 year deal over RJ here on an expensive deal.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:24 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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frick yeah it is. not to mention, you SEE it if you watch him. he starts playing scared at the end of games. he doesn't want to get fouled. he stops driving. he passes earlier in the shotclock.
He takes about 2 free throws a game baw. It's not like he's going 6 for 10 every game
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:25 pm to DeionDeion
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Dell isn't going after Rondo just because Boogie said so. If that was the case, we'd have Ty Lawson and Rudy Gay. Probably even Justin Holiday.
The writing is on the wall. Go back and read Boogie quotes on rondo from Sac
Adding rondo goes against everything Dell and Gentry supposedly want in the guard they bring in. The only box rondo checks is being good in the PnR. He's a smart player and can finish at the rim decently enough. But he can't shoot and his defense has regressed tremendously
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:25 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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he starts playing scared at the end of games
I still don't think that he'll be finishing most games.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:26 pm to MakeMoney
Any chance the publicly "positive meeting" with Pels & Rondo may be a little leak for leverage??
May expedite a deal they are working on?
May expedite a deal they are working on?
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