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re: pels and sixers talking about okafor
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:53 pm to cgrand
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:53 pm to cgrand
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but why a center?
whats the fascination?
Because
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Davis, recently selected to his fourth straight All-Star Game and second as a starter, reiterated Friday morning a preference for playing power forward -- "I always love playing the 4 -- I think that's my natural position" -- but said he isn't worried about a possible correlation to a recent uptick in missed playing time.
...Like I said, I never really banged as much with 5s, so it's something that's new to me. But for the betterment for the team, it's something you've got to get used to."
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why not get an energetic rebounder to play PF next to davis at center? what about faried? or crowder? or one of the bulls forwards?
Gibson could possibly work, but he's near the ring chasing, or at least playoff chasing stage of his career and is a FA in the offseason. Faried may be too small. Also, a 2018 pick and Ajinca isn't a bad haul for an expendable big, and most of the names we've brought up are expendable. It does seem like they could do better than Okafor. What about Ibaka like corndeaux brought up? Trade your 2018 pick for Ibaka and 2017 pick for Fournier who is kind of like a very poor man's Hayward.
Holiday/Frazier
Buddy/Moore
Fournier/Hill
Ibaka/Diallo
AD/DMo
Between paying Ibaka and Holiday you're going to be pretty much locked into that roster and you just gave up 2 more years of draft picks (Will they add a Demps rule in the next CBA after AD turns down all that money and leaves?) But it's a solid middle tier playoff team.
Again, I'd rather tank, but if they are going down this path, what gets them the best results?
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:18 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:well thats equally as unrealistic as us giving them Jrue for Okafor.
Sixers are fricking stupid. I wouldn't trade Jrue to the Sixers without getting Simmons or Embiid back.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 1:18 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:25 am to TigerinATL
quote:is that you Dell?
Trade your 2018 pick for Ibaka and 2017 pick for Fournier who is kind of like a very poor man's Hayward.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:51 am to Ryan3232
Yes, it's based on what MM said the plan is.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:01 am to TigerinATL
I would prefer Lopez for a 2018 top 3 protected first, but they gotta take Asik. And then maybe Batum after this down season for the 2017 pick and Ajinca. Frick it. If this is the path they want to go, at least get some proven guys. Re-sign Jrue and hope Diallo could be a solid rotation guy next year and that Buddy takes a step up. Could be a 48-52 win team.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:31 am to Crewz
quote:Nets supposedly holding out for lotto pick this year. Not sure I want to invest much in him anyway.
I would prefer Lopez for a 2018 top 3 protected first, but they gotta take Asik. And then maybe Batum after this down season for the 2017 pick and Ajinca. Frick it. If this is the path they want to go, at least get some proven guys. Re-sign Jrue and hope Diallo could be a solid rotation guy next year and that Buddy takes a step up. Could be a 48-52 win team.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:33 am to Crewz
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I would prefer Lopez for a 2018 top 3 protected first, but they gotta take Asik
While I wouldn't mind Lopez, I'm not fancy on giving up a first for 1 year of him. I wouldn't be upset about it though. It would completely change the way the team plays on both ends of the floor. you'd almost have to start over on all of your philosophies.
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And then maybe Batum after this down season for the 2017 pick and Ajinca.
Batum makes $20M. How can you just trade Ajinca's $5M for that? The only players we'd have left to give would be Hill and Moore.
You'd then have AD/Lopez/Jrue/Batum making $90M of the just over $100M cap.
I don't think Batum provides that much more than Hill does, for what they are paid. Both are hitting threes at around the same rate. Batum is a better scorer, but maybe if Hill took it upon himself to shoot more, he'd average 12-14 points a game. I'd rather Hill at $12M than Batum at $21M.
I'd really rather get both Fournier and Vucevic from Orlando. They are $13M cheaper than Lopez/Batum.
With all that said, I think it's stupid for them to trade for any high dollar center, although they seemed determined too. Kevin Seraphin can be had for pennies this offseason, just like the last two offseasons. He's all AD needs. Kyle OQuinn in NY would be perfect as well. He just needs that Ronnie Turiaf guy that will hustle his arse off and do the dirty work for 15 minutes a game. They don't need a true 5 that wants to score and is slow and makes them play slow.
I'd rather spend the money on a backup 4 than a starting 5. Regardless of who our center is, Jones, or whoever the backup 4 is, will play the crunch time minutes with AD.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:34 am to NOSHAU
I'm holding out for Mila Kunis. I love the game of unrealistic dreams.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:04 am to NOSHAU
They can want what they want, but they ain't getting that. If they are dying to sell it as "getting two picks", I will give them swap rights in 19. Good luck getting better than that
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:06 am to TeddyPadillac
You do the trade before you re-sign Jrue. I'm not gonna explain all the math to you or how uneven trades work, but trust me it's doable
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:25 am to Crewz
I guess. You have Jrue's bird rights so it's not a factor going over the cap to resign him. and I would assume in the offseason you are below the cap so uneven trades can work out as long as you stay under the cap.
I still don't want Batum. I'd rather find a way to get Oubre, or somehow sign Tim Hardaway Jr this offseason.
I still don't want Batum. I'd rather find a way to get Oubre, or somehow sign Tim Hardaway Jr this offseason.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:12 am to TeddyPadillac
I don't want ANY of this. But I don't get to be GM. This team is gonna add two vets or young vets with their 2017 and 2018 draft by June so it makes it more appealing to Jrue to re-sign. It's kinda like what the Nets did to make it appealing for D-Will to re-sign. I hate this franchises path, and I would love it if they went a different way, but it just feels like this is what will happen.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:14 am to Crewz
Demps is going to get a CBA rule named after him if this fails.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:24 am to TigerinATL
The Dell Demps Memorial frick You, You Can't Trade Any More First Round Picks For Mediocre Centers Rule
tDDMFYYCTAMFRPFMCR for short
tDDMFYYCTAMFRPFMCR for short
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:37 am to Fun Bunch
If Demps must get rid of picks, he should trade 17 and 18 to Chicago for Butler...if he is going to go full Demps, at least get someone good
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:38 am to TigerinATL
Is it forgone conclusion that Demps and Gentry are coming back next year no matter what this year turns out record wise
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:48 am to BSB1988
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Is it forgone conclusion that Demps and Gentry are coming back
No it's not. But let's look at what we do know.
- Alvin Gentry is still owed $3.75 million if they fire him.
- If the team keeps both Tyreke and QPon, they will get about $5.5 in insurance money, basically converting team salary into a job saving revenue boost.
- The new TV money kicked in this year so the team got a huge injection of cash that will obscure losses in season ticket sales.
If keeping Demps/Gentry is a bottom line decision, Demps has quite a bit of financial coverage. While the team may be worse now than 2 years ago, it's probably making way more money.
There are 2 wild cards in the equation. Joe Dumars, who's been angling for the job since he left Detroit. And AD, if AD says he wants people fired, they'll probably get fired.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:54 am to TigerinATL
But the point remains, that even if Dell gets fired and even if Dumars or whoever comes in-- you guys clearly see now that the demands on them will be the same and that they will never take the patient, rebuild route. Right?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:57 am to Crewz
AD has replaced Benson as the Win Now pressure point. Mark Cuban could buy the team tomorrow and you still probably couldn't sell AD on hitting the reset button or even just trading Holiday for a 19 year old.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:10 am to saints5021
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If Demps must get rid of picks, he should trade 17 and 18 to Chicago for Butler...if he is going to go full Demps, at least get someone good
Can't do it under the Stepien Rule unless it was after the draft (basically pick for Chicago and then send them the player +18.)
Also, not close to enough to get Butler. If we got a top 2 pick this year, maybe we could put together a semi-competitive package.
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