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re: Pelicans to have "sitdown" with Greg Oden

Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:29 am to
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:29 am to
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If Jeff Withey plays like he did last night, we won't have any issues.


Greg Oden is capable of scoring points.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:31 am to
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Greg Oden is capable of scoring points.


If and when healthy
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:31 am to
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I thought there was a restriction on trading newly signed FAs before December or something?



Ah, that is right. The 60 days is when you get the guy in trade (Miller last season). It's 90 days or December 15 when you sign them.

So Smith or Rivers.
Posted by StudentoftheGame
Member since Jun 2013
315 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:31 am to
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Greg Oden is capable of scoring points.


Withey actually has a decent mid range shot.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:33 am to
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So Smith or Rivers.


No one can possibly defend a move that sends Smith or Rivers to Portland for Oden.

No one.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:34 am to
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No one can possibly defend a move that sends Smith or Rivers to Portland for Oden.

No one.


Yep, that whole "low risk" part of the equation is blown to shite.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68784 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:36 am to
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No one can possibly defend a move that sends Smith or Rivers to Portland for Oden.

No one.



I absolutely agree with this. But if something else can work, then okay. I would assume DellMonty have at least some reason to think the guy can play again.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:37 am to
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Yep, that whole "low risk" part of the equation is blown to shite.



I think people are separating the risk once he's on the team from the cost of acquiring him.

I don't think anyone is ignoring the outgoing player, however.

Smith has a say in the matter, as well. Rivers would have none.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:38 am to
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I would assume DellMonty have at least some reason to think the guy can play again.


Or their interest could be overstated to drive up his market
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68784 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:40 am to
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Or their interest could be overstated to drive up his market


But why send Loomis if that were the case?
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:40 am to
No way on God's green earth we are sending Rivers for Oden. Absolutely no way!
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:41 am to
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No way on God's green earth we are sending Rivers for Oden. Absolutely no way!



Rivers is expendable. As soon as everyone realizes this the better.

Now whether you think he is worth expending for Greg Oden is another story.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:42 am to
I love Smith as much as the next guy, but he may be a bit over-valued around here.

He can't rebound and is average on D. He does have a nice shot but we need more D in the post.

Plus with Davis' minutes expected to be increased substantially this year, he will get even less time than before when he averaged 17 minutes a game.

Not to mention he is coming back from a season-ending injury and may not be 100% for training camp.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:44 am to
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But why send Loomis if that were the case?



1. Are we sure Loomis is going?

2. Is he going specifically for Oden? There are lots of prospect in Vegas right now.

3. To play hardball
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:44 am to
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Now whether you think he is worth expending for Greg Oden is another story.


Mostly this. But I don't think Monty is willing to give up on his adopted son yet.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:44 am to
Smith and Rivers are obviously bench players that are expendable. Smith is a good backup that can score and provide energy. He is a great guy to have on the bench.

Rivers is a player that is still a few years away but has great potential.

If you are trading either of them, it is for value. Greg Oden is not even remotely value for either player. It is insane.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:46 am to
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Plus with Davis' minutes expected to be increased substantially this year, he will get even less time than before when he averaged 17 minutes a game.

Not to mention he is coming back from a season-ending injury and may not be 100% for training camp.


Then why Oden? I will say that a rehabbing Smiht is easier to part with, but I truly believe he'll be healthier than Oden this season.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:53 am to
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Then why Oden? I will say that a rehabbing Smiht is easier to part with, but I truly believe he'll be healthier than Oden this season.



And Smith may be, but the point is he is being over-valued right now. His best case scenario this year will be maybe getting 12-15 minutes per game where he will average 2-3 rebounds and play average D.

Granted, Oden may come and never play a minute, but if so, we really aren't losing that much either way.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 10:54 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:57 am to
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12-15 minutes per game where he will average 2-3 rebounds and play average D.


>>>>>>>>>>

quote:

never play a minute


Or does average have a new meaning?
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:01 am to
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never play a minute


Or does average have a new meaning?


Pretty sure The Pelicans and three top NBA franchises wouldn't be pursuing him if they weren't confident that he will be playing this season.
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