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re: Pelicans 93 @ Blazers 100 / Final / Official Game Thread / 4th quarter=new 3rd
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:52 pm to TheSexecutioner
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:52 pm to TheSexecutioner
Get it all out my man.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:52 pm to THRILLHO
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We're the 5th youngest team in the NBA.
We were the 5th youngest team in the NBA before this game started. My point isn't that we shouldn't be optimistic. We should be optimistic in spite of this game, not because of it.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:52 pm to TheSexecutioner
Evans creates mismatches, and in today's nba, that is really all that matters.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:53 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:I know his feels
Get it all out my man.
I'm taking this season is stride pretty well so far, I'm proud of myself
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:54 pm to TheSexecutioner
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Does Monty not have the balls to tell him to cut it the frick out?
How do you keep a player in after telling him he needs to stop screwing up? That destroys his mindset. You just tell them what you think they need to do. And they do it or they don't. I can guarantee you that you don't get to be a head coach in the NBA by telling your players to just drive and hope for the best. He drew up sets. They diverged from them thinking they could hit the shot. Ryno and AD didn't get the ball as much as they should've because Reke and Jrue thought they coudd put it in. But when they did get it, they were just as inpatient putting up poor looks.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:54 pm to Solo
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Evans creates mismatches, and in today's nba, that is really all that matters.
yeh because the Spurs recipe for success is mismatches. And he gives up as many mismatches as he creates. he's playing as a small forward who can barely dunk.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:55 pm to TheSexecutioner
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no. Im not saying he's bad. Im saying he is so bad at one thing that it kills his value. Is he good as a 6th man for the Pelicans? sure. But all this game did is confirm that he's who he is and its filler that plays on losing teams.
One game confirms next to nothing
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This game did nothing but show that Davis is the only thing that can win this team games. Seriously, where is the optimism coming from? That we hustled on defense? You think we are gonna become the Grizzlies now?
No one has said that
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For the record, I'm still optimistic. But its in spite of this game. My optimism is that EG gets some confidence and returns back to being solid, Tyreke cuts it the frick out, and AD just becomes too dominant for the bench and Monty to derp it up.
Agreed
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And no. Tyreke has always been bad. I cannot stand him and it has nothing to do with his contract. He just doesn't play winning basketball.
His talent isn't a question. He was on a bad team in a bad orginization(with a shitty coach for most of it). He just needs to curtail some habits.
That's coaching.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:55 pm to danman6336
Me too. It is young. Get all this shite play out now. Cohesion play and AD getting fed the rock all you can eat style is what I want to see.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 pm to Tweak
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How do you keep a player in after telling him he needs to stop screwing up?
then take him out. His ball hogging makes him worse than a replacement level player when he's doing that shite. At least with other capable scorers in it does.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:59 pm to TheSexecutioner
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then take him out
I would've been all for this assuming they had a viable replacement.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:00 am to TheSexecutioner
No, when you hand pick tyreke frickin Evans to be on your team, you realize thats what you get. It wasn't coaching. They wanted this guy on the team knowing he's an inefficient chucker, probably the worst thing they couldve put next to davis.
You cannot just pull evans and put in salmons. Evans has to realize he's shooting 28% in the game and sub 40% for the season. Stop shooting anything that isn't a uncontested layup
You cannot just pull evans and put in salmons. Evans has to realize he's shooting 28% in the game and sub 40% for the season. Stop shooting anything that isn't a uncontested layup
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:01 am to LosLobos111
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One game confirms next to nothing
at what point did I say based on one game? Ryan Anderson is a horrible defender and rebounder from a 4. People fall victim to the Lake Wobegon fallacy and think he is serviceable at either of those things. Compared to who? The starting center from your 2A varsity team?
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No one has said that
yes, people are saying generic stuff about how optimistic they are. I honestly don't understand why.
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His talent isn't a question. He was on a bad team in a bad orginization. He just needs to curtail some habits.
His talent is absolutely in question. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. Shooting is a talent. And it makes there no role for him on a winning basketball team. He's not a good roll player because he needs the ball in his hands. And great teams have too high of an opportunity cost for the ball to be in Tyreke Evans hands.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:01 am to TheSexecutioner
First of all, he's a PG. Secondly, the Spurs model works great when you have multiple first ballot HOF'ers, vets who play for less money, and a top 3 coach of all time. Solid comparison.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:04 am to TheSexecutioner
Because most people would rather be optimistic than not be.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:07 am to JayJay2
Because at the end of the Day we still have AD and we have another 6.5-7 months of basketball to enjoy.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:09 am to chesty
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Because at the end of the Day we still have AD and we have another 6.5-7 months of basketball to enjoy.
Well, there's that.
Sexecutioner makes a couple of decent points, but I fear he's a bit of an absolutist. And he also may bust a fricking artery and have a stroke.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:13 am to TheSexecutioner
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at what point did I say based on one game? Ryan Anderson is a horrible defender and rebounder from a 4. People fall victim to the Lake Wobegon fallacy and think he is serviceable at either of those things. Compared to who? The starting center from your 2A varsity team?
Were you this vocal about it in any prior games?
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yes, people are saying generic stuff about how optimistic they are. I honestly don't understand why.
That we did pretty damn well considering not having our center, who's one of the best in the game at defense on the road. Yes POR didn't have batum but Asik is far more important.
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His talent is absolutely in question. He's a shooting guard who can't shoot.
His 3 point shot disagrees this season so far. His FG% in the lane is bad but that surely will get back up to scratch.
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e's not a good roll player because he needs the ball in his hands.
Well damn that can be said for many good players.
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And great teams have too high of an opportunity cost for the ball to be in Tyreke Evans hands.
We're not a "great team" yet and we're learning how to win(tyreke included).
It was a shitty night and hopefully they all learn from this. It's good it happened now and not in march/april when we're fighting for a playoff spot.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:15 am to JayJay2
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Because most people would rather be optimistic than not be.
Obviously missed Asik in the 4th quarter tonight. With his presence I think the Pels are in good shape, but most definitely need to improve their ball movement when the opponent turns up the defensive intensity.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 12:19 am to LosLobos111
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t was a shitty night and hopefully they all learn from this
It was a shitty fourth quarter (that resulted in a shitty night).
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It's good it happened now and not in march/april when we're fighting for a playoff spot.
Hopefully, a couple of the knuckleheads will let some knowledge and experience sink in before then. Hey, it's a long season, and I'm still optimistic. But I also have a feeling we'll see a move or moves before the deadline.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 2:35 am to Cracking
We lost momentum when the second unit came in during the fourth quarter. The ball movement stopped also during that time. The missed layups by Tyreke and Jrue at the end of the game killed us. The missed free throws were also crucial.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 2:43 am
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