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re: On Zion NOT getting to the line as often as we think he should...I think
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:30 am to shel311
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:30 am to shel311
Exactly. That was the point I was trying to show. Nobody goes to the rim more than him. And looking at traditional shot attempts stats to FT shots will not explain that fully.
Same goes for the "drive" stat that some of these guards justify their calls off of.
He just does not get the calls.
To expand even more on the SGA to Zion comp.
SGA takes 9 attempts per game at less than 10 feet.
Zion takes 14.5 attempts per game at less than 10 feet.
Same goes for the "drive" stat that some of these guards justify their calls off of.
He just does not get the calls.
To expand even more on the SGA to Zion comp.
SGA takes 9 attempts per game at less than 10 feet.
Zion takes 14.5 attempts per game at less than 10 feet.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:32 am
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:48 am to Dinky Mulberry
No it’s because they think because he’s built like a bulldozer he should have to deal with contact but that’s not playing by the rules. Look at guys like SGA in OKC. His entire game is about flipping, acting like he was assaulted and all sorts of things to get to the line. Still a great player but he actively lions to draw fouls and the refs reward him for it. They penalize Zion and BI for playing through contact. The key is putting the ball out front so they can’t debt you the foul like SGA does so well. Man they have a team there. Sam Presti is on a different level from every other NBA GM.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 11:11 am to Dinky Mulberry
I just think it’s because he’s big and gets different treatment from the refs with his size and style of play
Posted on 3/15/24 at 12:23 pm to Dinky Mulberry
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On Zion NOT getting to the line as often as we think he should...I think
The answer is pretty simple. Put him in a Laker jersey, and he averages 20 free throws a night.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 4:50 pm to Pels_Yaz
Are you guys ignoring last summer and just pretending like it wasn’t negative publicity for the league?
Also, how many national tv games has the nba given us and Zion hasn’t played? That’s a black eye every time it has happened in the past 5 years.
I’m not hating or anything, but I’m simply explaining why Shai gets calls and Zion doesn’t. It all adds up and matters.
Zion’s doing better now, that’s great. He’s not on the list of NBA golden boys yet though. He will need a deep playoff run and clean off court activity this offseason.
Also, how many national tv games has the nba given us and Zion hasn’t played? That’s a black eye every time it has happened in the past 5 years.
I’m not hating or anything, but I’m simply explaining why Shai gets calls and Zion doesn’t. It all adds up and matters.
Zion’s doing better now, that’s great. He’s not on the list of NBA golden boys yet though. He will need a deep playoff run and clean off court activity this offseason.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 5:35 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Are you guys ignoring last summer and just pretending like it wasn’t negative publicity for the league?
Having a child out of wedlock is not something the NBA considers a black eye from a publicity standpoint. You are beyond moronic if you actually believe that. The fact I have to actually post something telling you that is ridiculous. Anthony Edwards just had baby drama and used a homophobic slur in the offseason- hes labeled as the next face of the NBA now. If what you’re saying is true then 90 percent of the NBA would have a black eye. This is 2024 not 1925. Please adjust mentally.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 5:39 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:Is your bias against him so bad that you actually believe that line of crap?
Are you guys ignoring last summer and just pretending like it wasn’t negative publicity for the league?
Also, how many national tv games has the nba given us and Zion hasn’t played? That’s a black eye every time it has happened in the past 5 years.
I’m not hating or anything, but I’m simply explaining why Shai gets calls and Zion doesn’t. It all adds up and matters.
Zion’s doing better now, that’s great. He’s not on the list of NBA golden boys yet though. He will need a deep playoff run and clean off court activity this offseason.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 4:14 am to Pels_Yaz
Having a child out of wedlock wasn’t the issue my guy.I shouldn’t have to spell it out to you and rehash every minute detail of this summer.
I’ve given Zion his flowers repeatedly as of late
But comping why SGA and Zion receive different officiating is easy and shouldn’t even be a question.
All of the off the court and conditioning stuff matters in terms of treatment from the league, refs, etc. Zion has been great lately, but he hasn’t made up for 4 years of bad publicity yet.
SGA has been a model of consistency on and off the floor. He’s going to get more calls and he deserves them.
Noshau I’ve got no bias against the guy. I simply attempt to look at this team through a realistic and unbiased lense despite being a fan of it. There are enough blind homers on the site. That’s not the vantage point I prefer to view this team from.
I’ve given Zion his flowers repeatedly as of late
But comping why SGA and Zion receive different officiating is easy and shouldn’t even be a question.
All of the off the court and conditioning stuff matters in terms of treatment from the league, refs, etc. Zion has been great lately, but he hasn’t made up for 4 years of bad publicity yet.
SGA has been a model of consistency on and off the floor. He’s going to get more calls and he deserves them.
Noshau I’ve got no bias against the guy. I simply attempt to look at this team through a realistic and unbiased lense despite being a fan of it. There are enough blind homers on the site. That’s not the vantage point I prefer to view this team from.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 6:11 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Having a child out of wedlock wasn’t the issue my guy.I shouldn’t have to spell it out to you and rehash every minute detail of this summer. I’ve given Zion his flowers repeatedly as of late But comping why SGA and Zion receive different officiating is easy and shouldn’t even be a question. All of the off the court and conditioning stuff matters in terms of treatment from the league, refs, etc. Zion has been great lately, but he hasn’t made up for 4 years of bad publicity yet.
You mean his sidechick calling him out? Lol give me a break. Or him being out of shape early in the season means hes getting a bad whistle now? I’m sorry you’re so full of crap it’s ridiculous.
4 years of bad publicity? What the actual frick? You think Zion has had some bad publicity issues for the past 4 years because him having sex with instagram women, being injured and out of shape- you think the NBA considers this bad publicity? Which in turn is affecting him getting foul calls? My guy you need to seriously put down the weed.
This post was edited on 3/16/24 at 6:12 am
Posted on 3/16/24 at 7:52 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:
Are you guys ignoring last summer and just pretending like it wasn’t negative publicity for the league?
Also, how many national tv games has the nba given us and Zion hasn’t played? That’s a black eye every time it has happened in the past 5 years.
I’m not hating or anything, but I’m simply explaining why Shai gets calls and Zion doesn’t. It all adds up and matters.
The phone number for the National Mental Health Hotline is 866-903-3787.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 8:47 am to supe12sta12z
Players as big and dominant as Zion don’t get as many calls as others do.
Seems that’s just the way it is.
Seems that’s just the way it is.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 9:06 am to Pels_Yaz
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Shaq problem. Hes so big he absorbs contact
It was good for Shaq to avoid the FT line if @ all possible
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:28 am to Pels_Yaz
I don’t smoke or do drugs my guy. Perhaps you need to put down the weed. I have a different perspective and take on why he doesn’t get calls. You don’t have to have a meltdown bc you don’t agree.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:31 am to GOP_Tiger
I appreciate that, but I don’t have a fat wife or girlfriend so I don’t need that number. I’m good.
Other’s in the thread are actually crying bc I simply provided some additional insight on why calls may be different other than the usual 1) overall bias against Pels 2) Zion is strong 3) Shai flops. It gets tiresome to read the same 3 lazy takes over and over again.
Other’s in the thread are actually crying bc I simply provided some additional insight on why calls may be different other than the usual 1) overall bias against Pels 2) Zion is strong 3) Shai flops. It gets tiresome to read the same 3 lazy takes over and over again.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 1:23 pm to Dinky Mulberry
Zion will just never be officiated like other guys given his size and physical ability. It is what it is, but it will also improve when Zion becomes a more consistent force.
And to be fair, this cuts both ways with a guy who plays like Zion. Zion initiates a lot of contact with defenders and just moves people out of his to get to the basket.
And to be fair, this cuts both ways with a guy who plays like Zion. Zion initiates a lot of contact with defenders and just moves people out of his to get to the basket.
Posted on 3/16/24 at 1:58 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Other’s in the thread are actually crying bc I simply provided some additional insight on why calls may be different other than the usual 1) overall bias against Pels 2) Zion is strong 3) Shai flops. It gets tiresome to read the same 3 lazy takes over and over again.
You provided bullshite conspiracy nonsense. Don’t act like this is a reasonable theory. Its laughable you think this might be true. Just cause its tiresome doesn’t mean you pull shite out if your arse and act like its sensible or logical.
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