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Offseason moves?
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:23 pm
Besides getting a coach what needs to be done to make this team a championship team?
Free agents? trades?
Free agents? trades?
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:36 pm to crewdepoo
Gasol and Kawhi. If they wont come, DeAndre and Butler.
Make it happen Dell
Make it happen Dell
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:38 pm to crewdepoo
Vinny Del Negro player-coach
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:57 pm to crewdepoo
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Offseason moves?
I hope this gets stickied and becomes the Offseason Tracker thread.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:40 am to CQQ
DeAndre Jordan is pretty much goal #1 for me
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:38 am to WhoDatPelican596
Jordan will cost too much. You'd have to give up at a minimum Gordon, Asik, and the MLE, so you're giving up 2-3 starters just to get 1 that is only a marginal upgrade over Asik. If I dump Gordon and Asik I'm targeting Tyson Chandler and an $8 million SF for the same money it'd take to sign Jordan.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 5:43 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:24 am to TigerinATL
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If I dump Gordon and Asik I'm targeting Tyson Chandler and an $8 million SF for the same money it'd take to sign Jordan.
sounds reasonable to me
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:07 am to crewdepoo
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Besides getting a coach what needs to be done to make this team a championship team?
Coach is the biggest thing. You don't know what players you need until you know the system they are going to fit into. That said, Dell hasn't really been the type to make a sum-greater-than-parts roster in the past.
Frankly, they need to not royally frick up the coaching hire, which is starting to worry me.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:07 am to crewdepoo
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Well that's the plan
Nah, I'd rather one of the more respected posters get a stickied offseason thread.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:22 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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they need to not royally frick up the coaching hire, which is starting to worry me.
Why because we've only had the name of 1 candidate leak?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:26 am to TigerinATL
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Why because we've only had the name of 1 candidate leak?
Because that 1 candidate would, in my opinion, be an extremely ho-hum hire. You said it yourself, in the other thread, that trying to turn the roster around is 1 step forward 2 steps back proposition for us. I think any coach they bring in will have issues making these major pieces fit into their system. Like I said, the sum needs to be greater than the parts, whereas our roster is just a bunch of fancy mis-fit toys.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:48 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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a marginal upgrade over Asik
Deandre Jordan's worse game is maybe a marginal upgrade to Asik's best game
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:56 am to crewdepoo
I think Dell will do everything in his power to get Deandre Jordan paired with Davis. I think the FO believes he is a top 3 C and a great fit.
I don't think it comes to fruition because if he does not want back with the Clippers he will have no shortage of suitors offering him a max contract.
I don't think it comes to fruition because if he does not want back with the Clippers he will have no shortage of suitors offering him a max contract.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:04 am to NOFOX
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I think Dell will do everything in his power to get Deandre Jordan paired with Davis. I think the FO believes he is a top 3 C and a great fit.
And what do you base these thoughts on?
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I don't think it comes to fruition because if he does not want back with the Clippers he will have no shortage of suitors offering him a max contract.
It is next to impossible for the Pelicans to get Jordan. Tyreke and Cole for Jordan might work, but then you'd have to find a way to stay over the cap to keep the MLE intact. Gordon for Jordan would be unlikely and would leave us with another major hole in the roster.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:18 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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And what do you base these thoughts on?
(1) It makes sense as young, durable, super talented big men rarely make it to FA and (2) some inside info that I trust
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It is next to impossible for the Pelicans to get Jordan. Tyreke and Cole for Jordan might work, but then you'd have to find a way to stay over the cap to keep the MLE intact. Gordon for Jordan would be unlikely and would leave us with another major hole in the roster
Jordan is an unrestricted FA. We don't have to trade for him. We just have to make room for a max contract which we can do in multiple ways:
How Pelicans Can Make Room For Jordan Max Contract
ETA - I don't think the problem is making room for him as Dell can make that happen, but rather the difficult thing will be convincing him to play for us over the Mavs and the other 8 teams that will also offer him the max.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 11:47 am to Smedium27
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Deandre Jordan's worse game is maybe a marginal upgrade to Asik's best game
They do the same thing. Rebound and deter shots in the paint. The main difference is Jordan is athletic and can dunk. People don't want to pay Asik $10 but seem only too happy to pay $20 for an Asik that can dunk. It's crazy and irresponsible. Rather than paying double for Jordan I'll pay $2-$4 more for Chandler.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:26 pm to TigerinATL
I'm not a huge DJ fan, but I think you are selling him short a bit...at least he can catch?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:41 pm to TigerinATL
Jordan is way more than a marginal upgrade over Asik, and i would love him on this team. He opens so much on the offensive side of the court when he rolls to the goal after the pick. And his defensive game is miles ahead of Asik.
That being said, no way in hell i would pay any center that has every played $20 million dollars a year to play with AD, except prime Shaq and Olajawon.
If it was even possible to unload Gordon/Anderson and whatever else to pay someone $20 million, he better play the 2 or the 3, and I would be open to that to get Kawhi or Butler.
I would rather pay Kobe Bryant right now $20 million dollars than Deandre Jordan, if i was forced to pick one of those terrible deals.
That being said, no way in hell i would pay any center that has every played $20 million dollars a year to play with AD, except prime Shaq and Olajawon.
If it was even possible to unload Gordon/Anderson and whatever else to pay someone $20 million, he better play the 2 or the 3, and I would be open to that to get Kawhi or Butler.
I would rather pay Kobe Bryant right now $20 million dollars than Deandre Jordan, if i was forced to pick one of those terrible deals.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:46 pm to Solo
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at least he can catch?
Something that you value at $10 million per year? Is Jordan better than Asik? Definitely. But his strengths are the same strengths (Asik is really underrated as a rim protector because he deters shots at the rim more than rejects them) so you're paying a hefty premium for improvement in offense around the basket. Like I said, give me Chandler who can give me the same boost in finishing while keeping more or less the same in rebounding and rim deterrence for only a $2-$4 million premium.
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