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re: Non-Pels NBA December Thread

Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:45 am to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:45 am to
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young players with promise aren't good enough and don't fit together.


They are going to have to move some of the pieces and try to find proper roles for the ones they keep. To me, the only 3 keepers are Cunningham, Thompson and Duren. I don't think Ivey or Hayes are good fits.

I'd hate to lose him. But I think Alvarado would be a tremendous fit on the Pistons as a starting PG. He doesn't have to have the ball (Cunningham can still initiate) and he is a great on ball defender. Plus he can shoot, which they need desperately.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:32 am to
I'm interested to see what the Warriors are going to do over the next year and a half.

Curry can still lead a team to a championship, but he's 35 and not sure how much longer he has, but i do know they are wasting a good year from him this year.

CP3 is done.
Klay appears to be a shell of himself, and it's his last year of his contract.
Draymond has 3 years left on his deal after this year, but i think they have had enough of him. I doubt anyone wants his arse though. Maybe Detroit would be interested, but they don't have anyone GSW would want, as i would assume they want to go all in next year to try to win it one last time with Curry.
Wiggins' scoring is way down, and he's shooting the 3 at 30%, where as he's been at 39% the last 3 years.

They are $47M over the tax this year. I know they make a ton of money, but they can't keep paying that to be a playin team at best.

Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:04 am to
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I'm interested to see what the Warriors are going to do over the next year and a half.

Curry can still lead a team to a championship, but he's 35 and not sure how much longer he has, but i do know they are wasting a good year from him this year.

CP3 is done.
Klay appears to be a shell of himself, and it's his last year of his contract.
Draymond has 3 years left on his deal after this year, but i think they have had enough of him. I doubt anyone wants his arse though. Maybe Detroit would be interested, but they don't have anyone GSW would want, as i would assume they want to go all in next year to try to win it one last time with Curry.
Wiggins' scoring is way down, and he's shooting the 3 at 30%, where as he's been at 39% the last 3 years.

They are $47M over the tax this year. I know they make a ton of money, but they can't keep paying that to be a playin team at best.




I think they'll try and make moves at this deadline. They still have picks and some interesting young players.

They will never trade curry so their options are to push their chips in or watch this team slowly die
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:05 am to
Kuminga+Moody+picks is a solid package of assets too.

Markannan would be a great fit with GSW.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:09 am to
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Kuminga+Moody+picks is a solid package of assets too. Markannan would be a great fit with GSW.

Yeah I agree and those picks when curry is nearly 40 look juicy.

Honestly if we wanted to trade Ingram to reset the cap sheet and clear a path for Trey that would be an attractive offer
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:14 am to
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Kuminga+Moody+picks is a solid package of assets too.

Markannan would be a great fit with GSW.



That's just $10M in salaries.
ONe of their big salaries needs to go for an upgrade.
Draymond (3 years left) $22M
Wiggins (3 years left) $24M
Klay (expiring) $43M
CP3 (expiring) $31M


and i agree Markannen would be a great fit, but Draymond is the one that needs to go, but no one is going to want him except an established team with a leader that could tell him the stfu.
I think Wiggins is just having an off start to the year, and they would want to keep him.

CP3 would be the ideal candidate, and he would just get bought out and end up in LAL probably.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:15 am to
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Honestly if we wanted to trade Ingram to reset the cap sheet and clear a path for Trey that would be an attractive offer



that sounds terrible.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20733 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:36 am to
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Kuminga+Moody+picks is a solid package of assets too.


They aren't going to trade Kuminga.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20733 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:39 am to
Since playing in the IST title game, the Pacers have lost four straight, and the Lakers are 1-3.

There has to be a change next season so that the title game is not an extra game. Playing in that game seems to be a disadvantage.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12940 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:44 am to
They don't play any defense. It was going to catch up to them at some point.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:45 am to
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Since playing in the IST title game, the Pacers have lost four straight, and the Lakers are 1-3.

There has to be a change next season so that the title game is not an extra game. Playing in that game seems to be a disadvantage.


I don't believe that one extra game is the reasoning for their current issues. Their players simply tried harder during the IST than they are right now.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12940 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:55 am to
Bad road team struggling on the road. Not surprised. The Lakers played 3 of their last 4 on the road.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11225 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:59 am to
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They aren't going to trade Kuminga.



The one I keep hearing are the Warriors trading Wiggins (+) for Siakam. I'm not sure how much more it would take. But they do have that big expiring in Paul too. They have a lot of options. Need to make a move soon..
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:07 pm to
Lebron played that IST like it was the finals, then he slacked off as did AD.

Pacers haven’t played any defense all year except for in the IST, so that record is to be expected.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17410 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:09 pm to
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They are not going to trade any of the young players with promise. I see them trying to trade Bojan, Harris (if they can find someone to take him) and Morris.

They’re not getting anything but a bad salary and a first round pick for any of those guys at most.

Detroit is in a bad spot, they’re not going to pay 12 million a year to Monty to lose all these games, they will HAVE to trade off some young guys to get more win now vets.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:14 pm to
Yea, it's not uncommon for teams to play disproportionate amount of games over a small sample size.

I'm not even sure that those 2 teams actually have played more games the past 2 or so weeks, but even if they played 1 additional game, that's very normal so it would be a tough sell to say that's why they've struggled since.


There's probably a few reasons for it. Randomness, both teams playing more road games, and in Indy's case a likely regression to the mean as a team that plays no defense was never going to sustain a 50+ win pace.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Edwards, 22, was tagged in a post including the conversation via leaked text messages, which allegedly showed a photo of a positive pregnancy test and responses "hell nawl can't do dis" and "Get a abortion lol."

The post also includes a photo of a wire transfer of $100,000 with text messages saying, "I will send you money to help you out" and "you got da money whats the hol up."


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:02 pm to
The textbook "that wasn't who I am nor does it represent my values" statement from Ant was pretty funny.

Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:16 pm to
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"I made comments in the heat of a moment that are not me, and that are not aligned with what I believe and who I want to be as a man," Edwards wrote. "All women should be supported and empowered to make their own decisions about their bodies and what is best for them. I am handling my personal matters privately and will not be commenting on them any further at this time."


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112635 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:30 pm to
Heat of the moment...I imagine those conversations were over the course of days
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