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re: next coach
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:00 am to BayouBengal6884
Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:00 am to BayouBengal6884
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Would love to see Cal,
Why? What on Calipari's resume implies that he will be an effective NBA coach? Was it sucking as an NBA coach? Is it winning in college with absurdly superior talent? I guess we wouldn't have to worry about him putting us on probation for recruiting violations, at least.
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 9:31 am to burasjr123
Don't stop here, fire the GM as well. After constantly trading players since he's been in N.O., the team has not improved.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:25 am to TG
Anyone but Avery. I can't stand that dude. Terrible coach.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:28 am to TG
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the team has not improved.
To be fair, they have improved.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:46 pm to burasjr123
How feasible is poaching Larry Brown from SMU?
The guy is a hired gun. He's won a championship with the Pistons. He won the east with Allen Iverson, and a bunch of nobodies. He put the Pacers on the map. He brought the Bobcats to the playoffs. Would he be interested in coaching Anthony Davis?
George Karl sounds good, but he's never won a championship. Hoiberg is intriguing, but he's not proven. Calipari has already failed in the NBA.
The guy is a hired gun. He's won a championship with the Pistons. He won the east with Allen Iverson, and a bunch of nobodies. He put the Pacers on the map. He brought the Bobcats to the playoffs. Would he be interested in coaching Anthony Davis?
George Karl sounds good, but he's never won a championship. Hoiberg is intriguing, but he's not proven. Calipari has already failed in the NBA.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:57 pm to TigerinKorea
Larry Brown will be 75. Karl is 64. Can we not get a coach on his deathbed?
Calipari wasn't even 40 when he got his 1sr crack in the NBA. You can't really judge him on 3 seasons coaching Kendall gill and keith Van horn led teams.
People thought bill Belicheck and Pete Carroll were shitty NFL coaches at one time, yes?
Calipari wasn't even 40 when he got his 1sr crack in the NBA. You can't really judge him on 3 seasons coaching Kendall gill and keith Van horn led teams.
People thought bill Belicheck and Pete Carroll were shitty NFL coaches at one time, yes?
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:06 pm to GynoSandberg
I didn't realize was that old, but he's still coaching, so obviously his health is ok. Karl had a close one with cancer. That kind of trumps the age thing, and not to mention, he's never won a championship.
The dynamics of basketball are a lot different from football, so you can't compare the two. The only people who are a safe bet in the NBA are those who have done it before. I would bet on John Calipari not being able to win a championship with Davis in the NBA. If he were hired, I'd be disappointed.
The dynamics of basketball are a lot different from football, so you can't compare the two. The only people who are a safe bet in the NBA are those who have done it before. I would bet on John Calipari not being able to win a championship with Davis in the NBA. If he were hired, I'd be disappointed.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:34 pm to TigerinKorea
Meh, I don't think the NFL and NBA are very different. Stud players win Championships first and foremost in both leagues. Coaches are supplemental.
Does anyone really have an idea about Cal's coaching prowess? I don't think. They think he's a sleazy recruiter who just throws dudes out there and they win a bunch of games. Cmon. You don't get to where he is without knowing the game. Most importantly, he is respected by his players
Does anyone really have an idea about Cal's coaching prowess? I don't think. They think he's a sleazy recruiter who just throws dudes out there and they win a bunch of games. Cmon. You don't get to where he is without knowing the game. Most importantly, he is respected by his players
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:58 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm a little iffy on Cal. People just automatically assume he's a great fit for Davis but I don't recall him using Davis all that well to the point that people had no idea what he was capable of on that side of the ball. Offensively speaking. Seemed like he didn't really use him to his fullest capabilities. Although he had a team full of studs so maybe he didn't have to.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:41 am to GynoSandberg
It's different, because competent coaches who are able to relate to players well enough to win a championship are a lot more rare in the NBA than they are in the NFL.
Why do you think Popovich, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley (with a puppet) have been winning almost all of the recent ones? Go back further. Look at Red Auerbach.
A lot more coaches have won championships in the NFL than the NBA. In the NBA, you have to have one of the elite minds to put a team over the top consistently.
I mention Larry Brown, because he is one of the few who has been able to crack into that elite level, and they are doing Anthony Davis a huge disservice, if they aren't looking for that. .
Why do you think Popovich, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley (with a puppet) have been winning almost all of the recent ones? Go back further. Look at Red Auerbach.
A lot more coaches have won championships in the NFL than the NBA. In the NBA, you have to have one of the elite minds to put a team over the top consistently.
I mention Larry Brown, because he is one of the few who has been able to crack into that elite level, and they are doing Anthony Davis a huge disservice, if they aren't looking for that. .
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:24 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:22 am to GynoSandberg
I would say coaching matters a bit more in the NBA. Fewer players, more games mean less fluky results. Especially in the playoffs, when matchups are king.
It's interesting. There's more parity in the league than we've seen, perhaps, ever. Maybe 10 teams could be legit champions. Is this the new normal? If so, does that increase, decrease, or do nothing to the value of coaching? I dunno. Would be nice to find out what a good coach could do with this roster though
That said, I don't particularly want Calipari. If he's chasing the job, maybe. And I think he's a very good coach. I'm just not too enamored with college coaches- the game is so different at that level.
It's interesting. There's more parity in the league than we've seen, perhaps, ever. Maybe 10 teams could be legit champions. Is this the new normal? If so, does that increase, decrease, or do nothing to the value of coaching? I dunno. Would be nice to find out what a good coach could do with this roster though
That said, I don't particularly want Calipari. If he's chasing the job, maybe. And I think he's a very good coach. I'm just not too enamored with college coaches- the game is so different at that level.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:54 am to corndeaux
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I would say coaching matters a bit more in the NBA. Fewer players, more games mean less fluky results. Especially in the playoffs, when matchups are king.
I agree, in the NFL a team can get hot in the playoffs and win it all. The 2 super bowls the giants won were pretty much flukes- you're not going to tell me they were the best team in the NFL those years.
In the NBA I can't recall a team getting hot and streaking into the finals. Maybe the Mavs when they beat the heat but that was still a damn good team. Anybody can win a game but the better team will usually prevail in a 7 game series.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:58 am to GynoSandberg
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Calipari wasn't even 40 when he got his 1sr crack in the NBA. You can't really judge him on 3 seasons coaching Kendall gill and keith Van horn led teams.
There is more to the critique of Cal than sucking eggs in the NBA.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:25 am to GynoSandberg
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64.
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deathbed?
VOR is going to be pissed at you.
But seriously, I hear you on this point. Which is why I am so interested in Hoiberg at this point.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:41 am to Fun Bunch
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Which is why I am so interested in Hoiberg at this point.
Hoiberg is probably the most interesting option I've seen mentioned. Calipari and Karl just don't do it for me.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:15 am to TigerinKorea
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It's different, because competent coaches who are able to relate to players well enough to win a championship are a lot more rare in the NBA than they are in the NFL. Why do you think Popovich, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley (with a puppet) have been winning almost all of the recent ones? Go back further. Look at Red Auerbach. A lot more coaches have won championships in the NFL than the NBA. In the NBA, you have to have one of the elite minds to put a team over the top consistently. I mention Larry Brown, because he is one of the few who has been able to crack into that elite level, and they are doing Anthony Davis a huge disservice, if they aren't looking for that. .
Phil won all of his titles with a top 10 player Ever on the floor. Not to slight phil, but he rode some studs. What did he do without the studs?
Pop has duncan fof all his runs.
Spoelstra and Riley?
Auerbach and Bill russell?
Rudy tomjanivich?
Magic and bird teams of the 80s?
I'm not trying to downplay the importance of coaching. But stud players breed stud coaches.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:41 am to burasjr123
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