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re: Nets, Kenny Atkinson 'mutually agree to part ways'

Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:49 pm to
Its not the jump in win %, it's the development his players showed while he was there..

He has guys like Levert getting 50 point triple doubles, Dinwiddie being talked about like the next big thing, Allen playing out of his mind
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:49 pm to
Atkinson isn’t without faults. His offense is not very complex at all, it’s really simple space and pace stuff which has its strengths and weaknesses. A lot of people think he may be better suited for young developmental teams and not established vet teams.

To me he just seems like a damn good coach.
Posted by kpop1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:50 pm to
Kenny Atkinson: I am not halfway in, I am not three-quarters in, I am all in."

This good read.

Kenny Atkinson: Brooklyn Nets Coach on the Coaches that Influenced Him; Tracking 35 years of a basketball education with the third-year Nets coach
Tom Dowd
Brooklynnets.com Staff Writer
@tomdowd22
October 22, 2018

I cannot get it to post here.

help?
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:01 pm to
Yea this reeks of Kyrie’s stench. Love Atkinson, would be the perfect coach for this ball club. I was worried that there would be no good coaches on the market this year and we’d be stuck with uncle Al for another year, but the time is now to go get this guy.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Somebody has to explain why a GREAT Coach like Kenny Atkinson gets fired?


Demarre Carrol

Even past players love him
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:39 pm to
The more I see, the more he would be perfect here.. They say he doesn't know how to manage a "superstar" player, but that seems to be the case for the headache guys like KD and Kyrie.. Our entire roster is more attitude oriented with the way the Nets roster is. To add some more pieces.

LINK

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"In Zach Lowe’s latest pod with Kevin Arnovitz (~7:45 minute mark) they walk through some of the reasons for Atkinson’s dismissal. Key amongst them apparently is some long-simmering tension with DeAndre Jordan coming off the bench, in favor of Jarrett Allen.”


quote:

“Lowe says it wasn’t anything that was out in the open, but was understood by all, that decision made presumably Kyrie, KD, & DeAndre unhappy since they came to play together."

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:56 pm to
Demarre Carroll:

quote:

Somebody has to explain why a GREAT Coach like Kenny Atkinson gets fired?


Hmmm
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 4:06 pm to
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His offense is not very complex at all, it’s really simple space and pace stuff which has its strengths and weaknesses


You’re not wrong. Last year was not complex either with a lot of high pick and roll with Russell. Where I really like Atkinson is his ability to develop and connect with players (already covered) and his defense. Go look at the Nets D numbers from last year and this year. They definitely overachieve based on their personal. I also like that he has switched the scheme midway through this year. They went from dropping the center a lot to try and force a lot of mid-range jumpers last year and the beginning of this year (which was needed to hide Russell and Kyrie), to being more versatile. They are blitzing pick and rolls, trapping, and mixing in lots of zone. The turnovers forced rate as a result has skyrocketed as he’s weaponized the length of guys like dinwiddie, LeVert, and Allen in a new way. They had the 8th ranked defense in a lot of metrics since the change. That’s what gets me excited and has sold me on Atkinson. He might not be a top 5 coach, but he’ll be the first clear top half coach the Pelicans have in a long time, maybe even the first in their short history.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 6:04 pm to

at Kyrie having that much influence, regardless of the team or the circumstances. but maybe that's just me.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:04 pm to
Well, the Nets have the potential to be a contender next season. If Atkinson wasn't going to work well with Kyrie, then getting rid of him is the right move. I mean, it's a terrible indictment on Kyrie, but we already knew that he was a cancer in some ways. Kyrie, though, is also very talented at the game of basketball, and he and KD together could win the whole thing. So, the Nets decided to start preparing to take their shot next season, even if it meant getting rid of a quality coach.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:19 pm to
it will be fascinating to see what becomes of the nets roster outside of the three amigos (Irving, Durant and Jordan). I saw one report that the first two weren’t happy Atkinson benched Jordan for Jarrett Allen because “they came there to play together”...

Harris is UFA after this season
Leverts new deal starts next season
Dinwiddies new deal started this season, he can opt out after next year
Princes new deal starts next season
Allen after next year is RFA

They are a tax team next year regardless

winning cures everything but winning didn’t make Irving or Durant happy before.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:27 pm to
I'm willing to bet Levert, Dinwiddie nor Allen is there next season..

I really wouldn't be surprised if they dangle those 3 at us with picks for Jrue
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 7:28 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:47 pm to
they are lean on picks (and we don’t need anymore post lottery picks) but yes that is exactly what I was thinking

dinwiddie, levert and prince or similar would work
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 7:52 pm to
That would be alot of salary with Levert starting his new deal..

I was thinking more along Dinwiddie, Levert to us, then we dangle Allen and Nets pick to Pacers for Turner..

I doubt Dinwiddie wouldn't want to come here and be behind Ball, so we would likely send him elsewhere also, while Levert takes over the starting SG role

Only thing I wouldn't like is injury history of Levert
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 7:57 pm
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:32 pm to
Give me Kenny and Joe Harris with this roster.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

dinwiddie, levert and prince or similar would work

way too much salary to take in
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Kyrie Irving ‘soured’ on Kenny Atkinson early in the season and currently prefers Tyronn Lue to be the Nets’ next head coach, per @VinceGoodwill
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 7:46 am to
Kevin Durant will not care for Ty Lue, imo.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 8:00 am to
Yeah, I just don't see that whole thing working out and either Kyrie or KD will want out by the end of next season
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 8:58 am to
LOL this just keeps getting better.

All Kyrie had to do was play it cool and wait/hope KD comes back at near full health and they had an easy path to a championship with the surrounding cast they have. Now it is going to be Boston 2.0. All the young guys seem to hate Kyrie and KD is going to come back to a washed up Jordan demanding 30 minutes and a team that can’t stand each other thanks to Kyrie.
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