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NBA Trade Block--Potential Fits & Deals
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:12 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:12 am
KINGS: NIC STAUSKAS
Why It Fits Pels: This guy can be every bit the shooter Klay Thompson is. Klay's rookie year, only started 29 games avg'n 12 pts and 1.5 3's. Pels would have him signed to the 2018-2019 season. And he could potentially take over the SG spot when EG10 leaves.
Potential Deal: Stauskas/Jason Thompson for Ryno
Thompson has 2 more years at $6.5, $6.8 and can play the 4/5 alongside AD.
PHX: Miles Plumlee and Gerald Green
Why it fits Pels: Young, cheap option at C for the foreseeable future and we wouldn't have to resign Asik. He can give the 20-25 minutes that Asik provides.
Green is an athletic, sharp-shooting 3 and a perfect fit for this team.
Potential Deal: This is a tough one. Rumors are PHX is seeking at least one future 1st rd pick for Plumlee. We obviously do not have that. I'm sure Ryno could net a Plumlee/Green package, but we'd be taking the risk of not resigning Green.
DEN: Wilson Chandler
Why it fits Pels: Chandler is an obvious fit. He'll probably go to a contender that can offer a 1st rd pick.
Potential Deals: Ryno looks good on a lot teams and Denver is another. Ryno for Chandler straight up?
I'd like to move Ryno for pieces. Going through all the playoff teams, he's a great fit for about 75% of them. Some of them have 1st rounders they can ship our way:
Atlanta (Brooklyns unprotected 1st)
Houston (our 1st
)
Toronto (Knicks 2016 1st)
I'll update OP if anyone wants to add guys/deals.
Why It Fits Pels: This guy can be every bit the shooter Klay Thompson is. Klay's rookie year, only started 29 games avg'n 12 pts and 1.5 3's. Pels would have him signed to the 2018-2019 season. And he could potentially take over the SG spot when EG10 leaves.
Potential Deal: Stauskas/Jason Thompson for Ryno
Thompson has 2 more years at $6.5, $6.8 and can play the 4/5 alongside AD.
PHX: Miles Plumlee and Gerald Green
Why it fits Pels: Young, cheap option at C for the foreseeable future and we wouldn't have to resign Asik. He can give the 20-25 minutes that Asik provides.
Green is an athletic, sharp-shooting 3 and a perfect fit for this team.
Potential Deal: This is a tough one. Rumors are PHX is seeking at least one future 1st rd pick for Plumlee. We obviously do not have that. I'm sure Ryno could net a Plumlee/Green package, but we'd be taking the risk of not resigning Green.
DEN: Wilson Chandler
Why it fits Pels: Chandler is an obvious fit. He'll probably go to a contender that can offer a 1st rd pick.
Potential Deals: Ryno looks good on a lot teams and Denver is another. Ryno for Chandler straight up?
I'd like to move Ryno for pieces. Going through all the playoff teams, he's a great fit for about 75% of them. Some of them have 1st rounders they can ship our way:
Atlanta (Brooklyns unprotected 1st)
Houston (our 1st
) Toronto (Knicks 2016 1st)
I'll update OP if anyone wants to add guys/deals.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:18 am to Toula
Monty Williams for literally anyone.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:18 am to Toula
I would jizz for stauskas and Thompson
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:21 am to Toula
And if we can resign EG for a 7/8 mil/year deal I will be okay with it. There's no denying the guy can shoot the ball, he just has to stay healthy. His contract is terrible but I can live with if we get him for half the price.
Just saying that in regards to acquiring a SG like Stauskas, our problem as we all know is at the 3.
Just saying that in regards to acquiring a SG like Stauskas, our problem as we all know is at the 3.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:24 am to Tayday
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Monty Williams for literally anyone.
hell I would trade him for a new washing machine
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:44 am to Toula
Other teams know how Ryan Anderson has played this year.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:46 am to PrimeTime Money
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Other teams know how Ryan Anderson has played this year.
Yeah. Even if you believe 100% that Ryno will get his stroke back, it may not come back until next year. That seems like it would scare off all the playoff teams the OP is talking about looking to trade a future asset for a present asset.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:52 am to Toula
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PHX: Miles Plumlee and Gerald Green
Why it fits Pels: Young, cheap option at C for the foreseeable future and we wouldn't have to resign Asik. He can give the 20-25 minutes that Asik provides.
Green is an athletic, sharp-shooting 3 and a perfect fit for this team.
Potential Deal: This is a tough one. Rumors are PHX is seeking at least one future 1st rd pick for Plumlee. We obviously do not have that. I'm sure Ryno could net a Plumlee/Green package, but we'd be taking the risk of not resigning Green.
Bring in D'Antoni and run teams out of the gym
might not win ships, but would sure be fun to watch
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:54 am to PrimeTime Money
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Other teams know how Ryan Anderson has played this year.
His per 36s are in line with past few years. HIs FG% has dropped 2% from last year, 4-5% from behind the arc.
His December numbers were damn good.
His bad games just stick out b/c they have been bad.
Also, other teams know the make-up of this roster and coaching deficiencies.
His trade value hasn't dropped much, if any..IMO
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:07 am to Toula
Jeremy Lamb OKC?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:11 am to Toula
Yeah, trading Anderson now is definitely selling low. Doesn't mean we can't move him for better fitting pieces though. Batum's trade value is also in a slump. Portland fans want him benched because of his poor shooting this season. He'd be a good fit here. We would go from having no NBA talent at the 3 to start the season to having some decent depth there.
Not sure if Ryno gets you Batum, but maybe Ryno, Ajinca, Salmons gets you Batum, McCollum or something along those lines.
Not sure if Ryno gets you Batum, but maybe Ryno, Ajinca, Salmons gets you Batum, McCollum or something along those lines.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:12 am to Toula
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His bad games just stick out b/c they have been bad.
And they've been consistent. Outside of 2-3 games you'd have been better off not playing him at all on the road. That has nothing to do with the make up of this roster or coaching deficiencies. The Bird Writes had an interesting theory that it's a muscle memory issue and he's good at home because he gets so much practice there. I don't know how unfamiliar gyms affect muscle memory and shooting, seems like a bit of a stretch to me, but if true then Ryno would be terrible at home and on the road to the team he was traded to.
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His trade value hasn't dropped much, if any..IMO
As a long term piece it probably hasn't but you're proposing trading him to teams seeking short term gains, and in the short term he's proven to be not nearly as valuable as he used to be. From the Bird Writes article:
LINK
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:14 am to Toula
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His trade value hasn't dropped much, if any..IMO
I would agree. He's missing shots, but he still causes defenses problems. They still guard him 25 feet out. He still opens space for the other 4 guys.
The idea that when he misses he brings nothing is incredibly facile. The top 10 offense the team has is built upon Davis and Anderson.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:18 am to TigerinATL
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with the make up of this roster or coaching deficiencies
I would disagree on both counts.
Everyone talks about Anderson's road woes. I haven't seen anyone talk about Evans on the road. Or Holiday. Or Asik.
And I think coaching is a problem. Monty has asked him to create more this year. To post up more, to take more mid range jumpers. That isn't his game. The idea is to make the game easier for your players. Coming off a career threatening injury, I don't think the team has done this for Anderson
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:21 am to Toula
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This guy can be every bit the shooter Klay Thompson is
Whoa there nelly
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:27 am to Fun Bunch
Anderson is a hazard on defense and will never have a solid "+\-" if he is giving up every point on defense
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:28 am to corndeaux
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The idea that when he misses he brings nothing is incredibly facile.
The problem isn't that he brings nothing, the real problem is that he doesn't stop shooting, or rather we don't stop passing him the ball when it's obviously not his night. He should be used more as a decoy on nights when he obviously doesn't have it.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:30 am to TigerinATL
We can go in circles on Ryno all day. There's arguments for both sides.
He's playing the majority of his time without a typical point guard that can get him open shots..(I do concede he is missing open 3s at a higher rate this year).
He's also taking more long two's this year and having to create his own shot
I don't remember him having to force so many shots in prior years.
Road stuff is bizarre and that was a good read you linked. But we've had a road- heavy early schedule with lots of back to backs.
He's playing the majority of his time without a typical point guard that can get him open shots..(I do concede he is missing open 3s at a higher rate this year).
He's also taking more long two's this year and having to create his own shot
I don't remember him having to force so many shots in prior years.
Road stuff is bizarre and that was a good read you linked. But we've had a road- heavy early schedule with lots of back to backs.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:32 am to Smedium27
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Anderson is a hazard on defense and will never have a solid "+\-" if he is giving up every point on defense
It's never really been a problem for Dirk. As long as AD guards the rim, he's fine.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:39 am to Tayday
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And if we can resign EG for a 7/8 mil/year deal I will be okay with it. There's no denying the guy can shoot the ball, he just has to stay healthy. His contract is terrible but I can live with if we get him for half the price.
The tides have certainly shifted regarding Gordon. This time last year people were trying to lynch the guy just to get him off of the team. Quite a few people said they'd rather pay him $15M to sit at home than play.
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