re: Lonzo Ball is massive piece for NOLA.

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Truth hurts huh.

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If only it were truth instead of made up crap like a young teenager not wanting to admit he is wrong.

LOL, ok, sureeeeeeeeee. The stats are all “made up”


This board. Goodness gracious.

Well since I made up Jrue destroying Dame Lillard in the playoffs, I’ll just remind you that Dame Lillard was 4th in MVP voting that year, and Jrue made him his bitch.

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i called it from git go

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I get the sense this distills down threads like this.

People that are hellbent on rubbing in their justified faith in Lonzo toward people also equally justified in their initial skepticism, and vice versa.

People on both sides unwilling to concede certain obvious things, both positively and negatively about Zo’s unifinished development, seemingly to justify their initial positions. I.E. reflexive dominance hierarchy needs getting expressed around people’s anchoring/confirmation biases.

Lonzo’s developing very well, he also has some obvious holes and areas of needed improvement. He’s a unique guard with unique characteristics and so there are ways you can pick your numbers to make him look worse than he actually is or frame him as some near elite player. Which I think contributes as well, since both sides have points of merit.

Personally with the news of Atkinson, I am just hoping the stars allign because if there was one person I would want to be coaching up Lonzo it would be Atkinson, if there were two it would be Atkinson and Vinson. And we may have the chance if we do this right to have them both.

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And no Zo’s true shooting is not close to Jrue and Moore. This involves all 3 of your shooting percentages, 3ball/fg/ft’s. Zo aint shooting at Jrue/Moore’s percentages.

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You are just gonna keep doubling down huh

Jrue - 52.9% TS
Ball - 52.6% TS
Moore - 50.9% TS

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Thats not how life works.

You cant disagree with someone, and when the exact things you argued against come true, sit here and pretend like whatever you were saying was justified.

Like remember when you said Zion wasnt a #2 option right now? Nothing you can say right now can justify your shite take that you gave then. Thats not how life works. Sorry

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You and Corndeaux should hang out more, both absolutely love to argue by removing context and dumbing down the conversation.

I said if our goal was to accelerate our contention and be better set up for the Zion’s next 8 years, that in the context of winning now and later,moving on from Jrue and bringing in a guy like a Beal to be our 1A or 1B for the first couple seasons until Zion develops makes a lot of sense. That to truly be contenders beyond the first round in the immediate future we would need to go a route such as that. The context was our teams path forward and one path toward maximizing our championship window with Zion, Of course it works in ones favor a lot better if you remove that context and play ignorant to the larger conversation that was being had. Where I said to get into title status in say the next two years, it would likely mean bringing in a superstar level player like Beal, pushing the hierarchy downward until Zion inevitably develops into the more fully realized beast we all suspect he can be.



As to Lonzo, Facts change, people adjust to them. Arguing Lonzo may not be in our future plans if he doesn’t step it up, then adjusting when he steps it up, isn’t really a problem in my book, in fact it’s a pretty good characteristic to have. I’m glad for you that you looked at the poor start and said I still believe, and for everyone’s benefit Lonzo proved out, but other than these silly I told you so’s that require ignoring context, it seems a bit desperate.

Oh we arent talking career???? You know Jrue had 57% last season?

Dont compare someone’smcareer best to someone’s lows, re: Jrue/Etwuan.

How about the last two seasons. If Zo sniffs iver 56% in TS then we can talk.

Correct Bronc.

For instance, several years ago Jrue was injury prone, despite making the allstar team.

This board hated Jrue during that time and still does. The situation changed, Jrue has been healthy and somehow this board still hates him.

Zo comes here, some situation, except not as good as Jrue, big time injury issues. Board is obsessed with Zo. The obsession doesnt make sense other than he was famous in high school/college.

Not reading that wall of text.

Lol another lame, “its made up” excuse. Lol, posting facts is not making stuff up. Stats posted are not “made up”

Jrue crushing Dame is not “made up”

Ad/jrue/bi getting hatred like they suck is not made up.

This boards obsession with Zo isnt made up either. Its weird.

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This boards obsession with Zo isnt made up either.

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It's highly exaggerated by you.

I'd say at least 75% of the board wanted Lonzo repackaged for other assets in the AD trade.

You also seem to be basing this board's obsession on an argument you created and framed as Lonzo vs. Moore. Former #2 pick who is at least starter quality vs. a solid bench player is just silly. Of course people are going to think Lonzo is better than Moore. That does not make them obsessed with Lonzo.

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Its weird.

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It's not at all weird. Again, most of us wanted him cashed out, now he's playing like he's a good long term fit with the core. He exceeded expectations which is why people are now very excited. Yet another piece of evidence about how you are mischaracterizing the board's take on Lonzo. How could he exceed our expectations "putting up basically the same stats he always has" if this board has always been obsessed with him.

Seriously guys, it's time to stop this circular back and forth nonsense. Lonzo played terribly to start the season because he was still recovering from a season of rehab rather than work. It was right to doubt him then, or at least wonder what was wrong with him, but he turned a corner in his recovery, "got his legs back under him" and is now playing like an exciting long term prospect next to Zion and Ingram.