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re: Lonzo Ball is massive piece for NOLA.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:46 am to GynoSandberg
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:46 am to GynoSandberg
Gyno youre an idiot. The Zo obssesion on this board is real. Its more than one person. Coco Loco just continued the narrative. Also, read my take above its accurate. I will start to repost it to you if you continue to say the same shite over and over lol.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:53 am
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:01 am to P bean
Because many are Zo’s future a better long term fit for this team than Jrue right now people are idiots?
The only obsession I see is you with Jrue. Love the guy, but hey best serves this team as trade capital. Those cap dollars need to go to players that will be with the team for the next 3-5yrs.
The only obsession I see is you with Jrue. Love the guy, but hey best serves this team as trade capital. Those cap dollars need to go to players that will be with the team for the next 3-5yrs.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:52 am to P bean
What narrative? You’re saying people on here say Lonzo is better than BI. That isn’t what I said at all. I said his overall skill set can make for a more impactful player. KAT is a great player, top 15ish, yet there are guys who are worse players who can have more impact on a game.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:54 am to P bean
quote:
Zo is def not a better rebounder either, or playmaker
Yes he is. You’re trying to tell me Ingram has the passing skills Lonzo has? Maybe 3 players in the league that can make that lob to Zion from 70 ft with that kind of accuracy
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:01 am to CocoLoco
Playmaking is more than passing cocoloco.
BI can score it, 24 pts a game and 4 assists. He is a walking bucket. He can score from shooting, fast break, iso, etc. That means Ingram is a better playmaker than Zo.
And, BI is 6’8 with a lonnggg wingspan, who snags 6 boards a game, and can play the 4 spot. He’s a better rebounder also.
BI can score it, 24 pts a game and 4 assists. He is a walking bucket. He can score from shooting, fast break, iso, etc. That means Ingram is a better playmaker than Zo.
And, BI is 6’8 with a lonnggg wingspan, who snags 6 boards a game, and can play the 4 spot. He’s a better rebounder also.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:12 am to P bean
“Lonzo also ISO’s way more than Ingram. He is ball stopper at times, unlike Ingram”
“Lonzo also should have never been born, he takes minutes away from the more talented and far more important player in E’Twaun Moore”
Fully expect those to be P-beans next takes... although I tried to be conservative in just how bad they can get lol
“Lonzo also should have never been born, he takes minutes away from the more talented and far more important player in E’Twaun Moore”
Fully expect those to be P-beans next takes... although I tried to be conservative in just how bad they can get lol
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:32 am to P bean
quote:Jrue is only locked down through next season. He has a player option in 2021-22 and can opt out. Ball is most likely part of the future core of the team, no matter how much you hate him.
Jrue is locked down to a long term deal, and his timeline runs with Zions deal (4 year deal over in 2023 buttt we have his rookie rights etc), at the end of which Jrue will still be a good player in 2022 (jrue’s contract).
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Favors has been a valuable Center, who is giving us good minutes, production, and efficiency. He’s got two years with us and is free agent after to 20-21 season. We may or may not keep him for the life of zion’s rookie year deal. He’s on a two year, 36 million dollar deal.
Favors is a FA after this season. You seem to be looking at an old website.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:01 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer 1h
Brandon Ingram on Lonzo Ball's improvement as a shooter: "It’s a beautiful thing to see. He’s put in the work. He goes to the gym, even when I say I’m tired and I’m taking days off. He’s there all the time. He’s falling in love with the game of basketball. I like what he’s doing"
If that's true he might become a massive piece. We've seen how much his work has paid off already this season.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:29 pm to NOSHAU
Jrue is NOT opting out if his contract, thats 25$ million dude.
Favors contract runs through the 20-21 season as does Zo’s.
Whether you like it or not the core will be Jrue, Brandon Ingram and Zion for the next three years and management is going to see how far they can take us.
We will find out if we have favors or ball for a long period of time after the 20-21 season. That is the current status of the pels. We may be able to opt out of the second year on favors if we want but I doubt we would.
The delusion on here is quite funny. Yeah Jrue’s going to opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market instead of playing another year with the pels and earning another 25+ million, LOL hilarious. The guy who y’all think sucks and should not be getting paid as much as he is anyways LOL. Who ya’ll keep downvoting me on when I mentioned he crushed Dame in the playoffs. Yeah he’s gonna walk away from the money. This fricking board!
Favors contract runs through the 20-21 season as does Zo’s.
Whether you like it or not the core will be Jrue, Brandon Ingram and Zion for the next three years and management is going to see how far they can take us.
We will find out if we have favors or ball for a long period of time after the 20-21 season. That is the current status of the pels. We may be able to opt out of the second year on favors if we want but I doubt we would.
The delusion on here is quite funny. Yeah Jrue’s going to opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market instead of playing another year with the pels and earning another 25+ million, LOL hilarious. The guy who y’all think sucks and should not be getting paid as much as he is anyways LOL. Who ya’ll keep downvoting me on when I mentioned he crushed Dame in the playoffs. Yeah he’s gonna walk away from the money. This fricking board!
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:35 pm to TigerinATL
There you go tiger in ATL, that’s an accurate take he (Zo) MIGHT become a massive piece. Lol.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 3:45 pm to P bean
quote:First of all, Jrue likely will opt out of a $25 million option year if it means guaranteed money for more than that (and in all likelihood it will). Unless for some reason the market for players like him falls apart, he will easily get more than that guaranteed if he opts out (over a longer term). It is almost as if you do not follow the NBA and understand how contracts work. As far as Favors, you are wrong, he is a FA after this year (LINK /).
Jrue is NOT opting out if his contract, thats 25$ million dude.
Favors contract runs through the 20-21 season as does Zo’s.
Whether you like it or not the core will be Jrue, Brandon Ingram and Zion for the next three years and management is going to see how far they can take us.
We will find out if we have favors or ball for a long period of time after the 20-21 season. That is the current status of the pels. We may be able to opt out of the second year on favors if we want but I doubt we would.
The delusion on here is quite funny. Yeah Jrue’s going to opt out of his contract and test the free-agent market instead of playing another year with the pels and earning another 25+ million, LOL hilarious. The guy who y’all think sucks and should not be getting paid as much as he is anyways LOL. Who ya’ll keep downvoting me on when I mentioned he crushed Dame in the playoffs. Yeah he’s gonna walk away from the money. This fricking board!
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:02 pm to NOSHAU
He's not going to get a bigger contract than the one he got right after he laid the smack down on Dame Lillard bro.
This is the best contract of Jrue's career, and his next one will be for less. His contract in his 30's will not be more per year than the one he's currently playing on. He's DEFINITELY going to want the money. Especially if we are a play off team.
Only way he takes less is if he wants to leave for a proven winner and doesn't think he can win a ship with Zion and BI.
Agreed re: Favors, I forgot we traded for him.
This is the best contract of Jrue's career, and his next one will be for less. His contract in his 30's will not be more per year than the one he's currently playing on. He's DEFINITELY going to want the money. Especially if we are a play off team.
Only way he takes less is if he wants to leave for a proven winner and doesn't think he can win a ship with Zion and BI.
Agreed re: Favors, I forgot we traded for him.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:11 pm to P bean
quote:Do you understand that NBA contracts are guaranteed? A guy with a $25 million option likely will opt out even if he is making a little less per year in his next contract. For instance, if he thought he could get a 4 year/$80 million deal, he would likely opt out to take that even though it is $20 million a year instead of $25 million a year. It results in $55 million more in guaranteed money.
He's not going to get a bigger contract than the one he got right after he laid the smack down on Dame Lillard bro.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:39 pm to NOSHAU
Naw he will only opt out if he wants out dude or to resign with us. And no if he opts out his 25million is NOT guaranteed.
Jrue will likely play out this contract and sign a new one after that. There is not a reason to do it any other way, what NBA precedent are you looking at? Then if he gets a four year 20 mill offer he may take it. At that point he’ll have to decide if he wants (1) best deal, (2) stay a pel with Zion (top player potential future mvp) or (3) take less to be on a contender.
If Jrue opts out hopefully its to sign with us again like AD is about to do this summer with the Lakers most likely.
Jrue will likely play out this contract and sign a new one after that. There is not a reason to do it any other way, what NBA precedent are you looking at? Then if he gets a four year 20 mill offer he may take it. At that point he’ll have to decide if he wants (1) best deal, (2) stay a pel with Zion (top player potential future mvp) or (3) take less to be on a contender.
If Jrue opts out hopefully its to sign with us again like AD is about to do this summer with the Lakers most likely.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:49 pm to P bean
Seriously dude, you don’t know what the frick you are talking about.
The only way Jrue decides to not opt out is because he falls off a cliff and fears his next contract will be significantly less than his current trajectory. To which he is no longer a viable third anchor.
25mil <<<<< 50 - 90 million.
Jrue is going to be trying to net a major contract at 32 if he opts in, no agent in their right mind, no player in their right mind, unless forced to do so, or unless on the level of Lebron or KD, would risk a higher overall salary and guaranteed money to roll that dice.
The only way Jrue decides to not opt out is because he falls off a cliff and fears his next contract will be significantly less than his current trajectory. To which he is no longer a viable third anchor.
25mil <<<<< 50 - 90 million.
Jrue is going to be trying to net a major contract at 32 if he opts in, no agent in their right mind, no player in their right mind, unless forced to do so, or unless on the level of Lebron or KD, would risk a higher overall salary and guaranteed money to roll that dice.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:02 pm to Bronc
Yeah, thats my point dude. It will all depend on what happens in next three years, and how well we are doing with BI/Zion/Jrue. But they will be the leaders if this team for the foreseeable future.
And what the frick are you talking about players opt in all the time. Goddamn.
I agree thats true re: opt out, if he’s still a 20/6 guy he may fish for his best deal and opt out. Hopefully we give it to him and keep him. If he’s diminished a good bit then maybe not. But I dont see Jrue as one of those Max players who can force their teams hand re: contracts/trades. And that doesnt really fit Jrue’s style either. Bro, NBA players play out their contracts all the time. Youre thinking of max players.
LINK
This article has a list of ALL players who opted in for this season and its a long one. 13 players opted in and 11 opted out. Aaron Baynes, Goran Dragic, Jeff Teague are examples. I see Jrue similarly.
So thats MORE players that opted in then opted out FYI. Cmon dude. Apparently you dont know what the frick youre talking about saying no players opt in. Gtf.
LINK
Here’s the list for 2018. Way more players opted in not out. 20 opted in. 8 opted out.
Regardless we will playing through those 3 for the next few seasons, and we’ll see how it plays out. If we are rolling then I dont see why Jrue would want to leave Zion.
And what the frick are you talking about players opt in all the time. Goddamn.
I agree thats true re: opt out, if he’s still a 20/6 guy he may fish for his best deal and opt out. Hopefully we give it to him and keep him. If he’s diminished a good bit then maybe not. But I dont see Jrue as one of those Max players who can force their teams hand re: contracts/trades. And that doesnt really fit Jrue’s style either. Bro, NBA players play out their contracts all the time. Youre thinking of max players.
LINK
This article has a list of ALL players who opted in for this season and its a long one. 13 players opted in and 11 opted out. Aaron Baynes, Goran Dragic, Jeff Teague are examples. I see Jrue similarly.
So thats MORE players that opted in then opted out FYI. Cmon dude. Apparently you dont know what the frick youre talking about saying no players opt in. Gtf.
LINK
Here’s the list for 2018. Way more players opted in not out. 20 opted in. 8 opted out.
Regardless we will playing through those 3 for the next few seasons, and we’ll see how it plays out. If we are rolling then I dont see why Jrue would want to leave Zion.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:07 pm to P bean
The chances that Jrue is traded in the offseason are higher than him signing an extension.
He doesn’t fit the team’s timeline. That’s not a slight on him, but a nod to our young talent.
He doesn’t fit the team’s timeline. That’s not a slight on him, but a nod to our young talent.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:17 pm to touchdownjeebus
Griffin loves Jrue. I doubt it.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:30 pm to P bean
Read what I said dipshit, you are lumping in guys like Tyler Johnson(27 and on a major overpay) with a soon-to-be 32 year old if he opted in.
And None of your arguments make a lick of fricking sense in the aggregate.
If Jrue plays well he opts out, if he plays poorly he opts in. That’s it. That’s the decision.
There is no way Jrue goes and averages 20-6 and decides to risk a worse season for a worse deal afterwards unless there are some crazy circumstances with the cap.
And if he does play anything less than that then there is no way he is your third wheel. So what are you doing paying that guy 20+ million or thereabout when you will be paying Lonzo/Zion/Ingram most of your cap?
The delusions you have about Jrue are the EXACT delusions you are projecting onto everyone else about Lonzo. Speaking out your arse in optimistic hyperbole and declaring your opinions as good as if they came down from stones off the mountain. Either you are so fricking thick you can’t realize how absurd you look in living out your own accusations of others in real time, or you are a troll with way too much time on his hands.
And None of your arguments make a lick of fricking sense in the aggregate.
If Jrue plays well he opts out, if he plays poorly he opts in. That’s it. That’s the decision.
There is no way Jrue goes and averages 20-6 and decides to risk a worse season for a worse deal afterwards unless there are some crazy circumstances with the cap.
And if he does play anything less than that then there is no way he is your third wheel. So what are you doing paying that guy 20+ million or thereabout when you will be paying Lonzo/Zion/Ingram most of your cap?
The delusions you have about Jrue are the EXACT delusions you are projecting onto everyone else about Lonzo. Speaking out your arse in optimistic hyperbole and declaring your opinions as good as if they came down from stones off the mountain. Either you are so fricking thick you can’t realize how absurd you look in living out your own accusations of others in real time, or you are a troll with way too much time on his hands.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:35 pm to Bronc
Says the fricking MORON that just posted that NO players opt in. You dont know your arse from your ear. Well 31 opted in the last 2 years and 19 opted out. So way more are opting in, you clueless bastard.
Shut the frick up clown!!!
Why dont you read the article I posted it will explain to you why players are opting in instead of out. That way you’ll know what youre talking about. And you’ll know why Jrue would likely opt in.
HINT: it depends on more than just how well Jrue is playing at that point. Hope this helps you!
Aaron Baynes? Overpay? Naw but opted in for 6 million. Follow the NBA more and you’ll get it!
Shut the frick up clown!!!
Why dont you read the article I posted it will explain to you why players are opting in instead of out. That way you’ll know what youre talking about. And you’ll know why Jrue would likely opt in.
HINT: it depends on more than just how well Jrue is playing at that point. Hope this helps you!
Aaron Baynes? Overpay? Naw but opted in for 6 million. Follow the NBA more and you’ll get it!
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 6:47 pm
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