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re: Lakers version of Crewz, claims main framework on deal with Lakers done.

Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:50 am to
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:50 am to
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So if I read these bombs and threads correctly, the Pels aren't interested in the #4 pick. That's the only decent pick the Lakers have. It's all players?




I wouldnt say the Pels arent interested in it. They would just rather turn that pick and some of Lakers assets (Ball, Kuzma) into an All Star player to pair with Jrue and Zion.

But yes, the Lakers dont have great picks to offer like the Celtics do.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:54 am to
Outside of an unknown in Memphis pick, Boston has horrible picks
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5914 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:59 am to
Meh...first round picks are assets....and Celtics have alot of them. Lakers dont.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:04 am to
Top 10 picks are assets

Future picks are assets because of the unknown

Middling 1st round picks in a weak draft are not assets for anything outside if maybe using to dump a little salary
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:05 am to
Main thing to remember is that we aren’t necessarily picking at the spots where the Kings, Celtics, and/or Clippers picks are. We can package then to move up and get one player we want. Or we can trade for future picks. Or for other players.

They are very flexible as to what can be done with them. Unlike, say, Ball or Kuzma who have very specific markets for them at the moment and we aren’t one of them.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:09 am to
You gotta consider the little amount of time Langdon has been in office and Griffin focusing on hiring his staff, AD trade, and etc. Do we know if they trust the current data from the barely there scouting department to make a sound decision? This draft outside of the top 3 this year is probably going to be tough on them.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:09 am to
You can package 14,20 and 22 and you MIGHT get in the 9-11 range..

NBA draft is not like the NFL draft where you can throw 2-3 1srmt rounders at a team and move up into the top 5
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8681 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:10 am to
Unless you pick Kawhi Leonard or Paul George or Giannis with those middling first round picks.

Easy to dismiss mid-1st round picks until you hit on a couple.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:12 am to
I don’t think the 3rd team is inconsequential so if there’s no 3rd team, it’s not close
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17182 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:14 am to
So in that case I guess 2nd round picks are just as valuable because you can pick a Jokic, Middleton, Brogdon, Gasol, Manu etc etc etc??
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:15 am to
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I don’t think the 3rd team is inconsequentia




Right we don't know if a team thinks one of the Lakers players is the next Buddy Hield who is the next Steph Curry.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:28 am to
We aren’t doing a Ricky Williams trade and getting into the top 5 but if we like a guy at 10 or 12 who is dropping, we could move up and get him.


It’s about knowing the value of who is left on the board and how much they are worth to us.

If, say, Doumbouya makes it to 11 or 12, I would flip those picks for him if we had a high grade on him and see him as a future star for us.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17182 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:49 am to
I wouldnt worry too much about this.. Lamgdon was part of a front office before coming here, he's not that far behind on anything except maybe face to face meetings
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17182 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:51 am to
If we see a guy in that light as a future star, then you take the #4 from LA and pick him there..

With the rumors of Griffin telling LA to go get a player with that 4 pick, that tells me that there is nobody they really see worth picking there
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8681 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:15 am to
First of all, none of those guys are superstars the way the other three are. Arguably kawhi, PG when healthy, and Giannis were three of the top 5 players in the league this year.

Secondly, the complete bust rate of mid teens guys is much lower than second round picks. You’re still likely to get a rotation player at least, whereas the majority of second round picks don’t even make rosters.

Finally, I never said mid round picks are as valuable as high lottery picks. That’s absurd. But they definitely aren’t just filler
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 10:20 am
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:21 am to
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