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re: Kira-Dyson-Herb-BI-Larry Lineup
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:24 pm to supe12sta12z
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:24 pm to supe12sta12z
Sometimes you can just see a player and just tell.
You can just tell with him, he isn't an NBA player.
You can just tell with him, he isn't an NBA player.
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:26 pm to supe12sta12z
I know Herb is older but its crazy to think about that Herb was drafted a year after him. I mean Jose came in a year later and wasn’t even drafted. I really hope the light turns on for the kid in the next few games or I doubt we see him get serious NBA minutes again.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:32 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Bro that is a horrible stat line in 11 minutes.
Yeah no shite. I’m not disagreeing with y’all??
I’m literally saying his stat line was that shite and he is still “playable” because of the 1 “elite” skill set he has that positively impacts our other players.
I’m not saying we should keep him, I’m not saying I want to keep him, I’ve said Jose will replace him the second he is healthy.
But the facts are facts. He’s playable because of those reasons.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:35 pm to Fun Bunch
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Any minutes with him on the floor are a waste of 1 of the 5 positions.
This would be correct if he wasn’t +0 with an extremely negative stat line.
I get your point, I understand where you are coming from, but it’s wrong. He does positivity impact our players in a role that no one else on our team can play except Jose who isn’t available.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:37 pm to Dantheman504
Y’all are acting like I didn’t start this out with “yeah he should be gone once Jose is healthy and Hawkins/ Dyson get more experience.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:39 pm to Dantheman504
I disagree hes playable because we don’t have a choice not because of his “elite” skill set. And if he keeps putting out those stat lines, you may see someone else. I feel you’re giving him credit for the better play of players around him especially trying to bring in his plus/minus. Again, I say one game so lets see but not encouraging start from him.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:47 pm to Pels_Yaz
We will see someone else…
He will be replaced….
His stat line is shite….
So he’s playable because we don’t have a choice because he has a specific skill set that other players don’t have right now? I said that already.
1 of those skill sets IS elite speed. He does have elite speed. It’s not an argument. Not saying he uses it on an “elite” level but he does have elite speed and certain skill sets other don’t have. That’s why he’s playable.
We are saying the same fricking thing and y’all are getting caught up on the word “elite” even though he literally has “elite” speed. Geez
He will be replaced….
His stat line is shite….
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disagree hes playable because we don’t have a choice not because of his “elite” skill set.
So he’s playable because we don’t have a choice because he has a specific skill set that other players don’t have right now? I said that already.
1 of those skill sets IS elite speed. He does have elite speed. It’s not an argument. Not saying he uses it on an “elite” level but he does have elite speed and certain skill sets other don’t have. That’s why he’s playable.
We are saying the same fricking thing and y’all are getting caught up on the word “elite” even though he literally has “elite” speed. Geez
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:50 pm to Dantheman504
The problem is your argument is just strange. You’re acting like if a guy is really fast, thats an elite skill set so hes playable in the NBA. I think most disagree with that statement.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
Can’t wait for Murphy and Alvarado to come back
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:56 pm to Pels_Yaz
No.
He has elite speed
Elite speed= better spacing
Better spacing= better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ
Better ball movement= better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ
Better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ= better +/-
Better +/- for Zion/ BI/ CJ with +0 for Kira = positive impact.
It’s not rocket science. I’ve already said the guy will be replaced and will be an after thought once Jose is back. But “unplayable“ means he has no impact or a negative impact which are both incorrect.
He has elite speed
Elite speed= better spacing
Better spacing= better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ
Better ball movement= better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ
Better shots for Zion/ BI/ CJ= better +/-
Better +/- for Zion/ BI/ CJ with +0 for Kira = positive impact.
It’s not rocket science. I’ve already said the guy will be replaced and will be an after thought once Jose is back. But “unplayable“ means he has no impact or a negative impact which are both incorrect.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:04 pm to NOSHAU
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was not impressed with Dyson either. He still has a ton of trouble finishing at the rim and is hesitant on shots.
I’m not ready to give up on Dyson. He’s like 15 years old too
I like his potential. I’ve never like Kira’s game or size. Plays out of control and has no shot.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:07 pm to Dantheman504
Elite speed with no other aspects of your game doesn't automatically equal better spacing
No other team could give 2 shits about his "elite speed"
No other team could give 2 shits about his "elite speed"
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:16 pm to Dantheman504
None of what you said was true.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:22 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Elite speed with no other skill to tax a defense does not provide any additional spacing.
Elite speed= better spacing
Teams do not care one bit about Kira when he's on the court. Thinking of the rotation we put out there of 10 or however many players we played last night, I think it's pretty safe to say Kira was the one offensive player they cared about the least other than Larry...maybe.
A speedy guy who can't shoot or drive, you just sag off of him and go under every screen, and you effectively take away that elite speed.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:30 pm to shel311
When you get shutdown by Kennard. You need to figure out a new career.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:44 pm to Dantheman504
All the guys above me stated what I wanted to say. If we go by your theory and elite skillset of speed gets you NBA playing time, then we should go sign Tyreek Hill.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:46 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Huge assumption. Did you watch this last game? Did not happen at all.
Elite speed= better spacing
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:28 pm to NOSHAU
Kira should lose his minutes to Seabron. What exactly does Kira do better?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:30 pm to ghost2most
quote:Seabron has 1 particular skill that he's shown to be unstoppable at with every step of his career. I'd like to see if that is the case in the NBA as well.
Kira should lose his minutes to Seabron. What exactly does Kira do better?
But at the very least, you have Hawkins and Ryan who can replace Kira. I assume we'll give him more of a shot than 1 game, of course.
I don't think we need Kira as a point guard. We have dudes who can take the ball up the court and run the offense, which is why I don't mind replacing him with spot up shooters.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:32 pm to shel311
Dyson can do that with much better defense.
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