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re: Kings and Pels in trade talks …
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:If we do a deal with the Kings, gotta think Huerter would get re-routed.
Huerter is the perfect guy we want comign off the bench and if Hawkins can learn from him and at least equal him, then we have a good problem.
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:13 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
If we do a deal with the Kings, gotta think Huerter would get re-routed.
Probably, b/c Griff is an idiot.
I love CJ, but he needs to be moved as well so that Murray/Herb/Trey can start. having Huerter basically take CJ's spot as the shooter but coming off the bench is ideal since CJ isnt' goign to come off the bench, and costs twice as much as Huerter.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:From what I have heard, the Pels have tried to include CJ in deals and getting no traction. He seems to be seen as a negative contract under new CBA. Griff screwed the pooch extending him when he did.
Probably, b/c Griff is an idiot.
I love CJ, but he needs to be moved as well so that Murray/Herb/Trey can start. having Huerter basically take CJ's spot as the shooter but coming off the bench is ideal since CJ isnt' goign to come off the bench, and costs twice as much as Huerter.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
Oh yeah so stupid to upgrade at #2 PG.
We have to upgrade:
#1 Center
#2 PF
#2 Center
#2 PG (upgrade Jose would be next)
#3 SF
Y'all would rather get a third string player that will barely get minutes over upgrading a #2 position?
Murray/ Jose #4
CJ/ Hawk/ Reeves
Trey/ BI/ Ryan
Zion/ #2/ JRE
#1/ #3/ Missi
Like it or hate it unless we trade CJ then Jose is next upgradable position right now besides the obvious.
We have to upgrade:
#1 Center
#2 PF
#2 Center
#2 PG (upgrade Jose would be next)
#3 SF
Y'all would rather get a third string player that will barely get minutes over upgrading a #2 position?
Murray/ Jose #4
CJ/ Hawk/ Reeves
Trey/ BI/ Ryan
Zion/ #2/ JRE
#1/ #3/ Missi
Like it or hate it unless we trade CJ then Jose is next upgradable position right now besides the obvious.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:23 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
From what I have heard, the Pels have tried to include CJ in deals and getting no traction.
Link?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:28 pm to Dantheman504
Tyus Jones has a negative NetRtg for on/off the last 2 years. -6 this past year, and -4 the year before. He's a terrible defender, and appears to not really make a tangible difference to the team when he's on the court.
Jose was a +10 NetRtg on/off this past year, which is a big number. We were better offensively with him, as well as defensively. He was +4 last year.
explain to me again why we should bench or ship out $2M fan favorite Jose for $15M/yr Tyus Jones?
Jose was a +10 NetRtg on/off this past year, which is a big number. We were better offensively with him, as well as defensively. He was +4 last year.
explain to me again why we should bench or ship out $2M fan favorite Jose for $15M/yr Tyus Jones?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
Ohhh so this a "fan favorite" vs outsider conversation.
Yeah Jose is a better bball player than Tyus Jones. My bad.
Also Jose is on the last year of his contract, probably getting a 10mil or more deal next year from someone.
Let's not make this about money difference knowing the obvious..
Option A is a clear upgrade to backup PG
Option B is being content with a guy you like on a currently good contract.
Yeah Jose is a better bball player than Tyus Jones. My bad.
Also Jose is on the last year of his contract, probably getting a 10mil or more deal next year from someone.
Let's not make this about money difference knowing the obvious..
Option A is a clear upgrade to backup PG
Option B is being content with a guy you like on a currently good contract.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:32 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
From what I have heard, the Pels have tried to include CJ in deals and getting no traction. He seems to be seen as a negative contract under new CBA.
I have a hard time believing he's a negative contract. He's easily worth 2 firsts.
and if that's true that his value isn't at least that, then it really shows that his horrible defense in the playoffs didn't go unnoticed by the rest of the league. He was argueably the best 3 point shooter in the league last year, but the defense is that bad.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:35 pm to NOSHAU
Not sure that has to happen. Maybe I'm missing something but if the deal is Barnes/Huerter/2 first rounders and maybe some 2nds as well (e.g.), then...
Barnes (PF) and Huerter (SF) provide excellent veteran depth.
The first round picks are the ammunition to acquire a starting 5.
I'd be fine actually signing two stop-gap bigs and going into next year with a ton of shooting in the line up. If we are getting killed inside and it's costing us games, you adjust in season with a bigger trade and you'd have plenty of ammo to pull that off. I think several teams have demonstrated you can go with serviceable bigs and be successful if you have the 3-point shooting.
So, say you brought in Wiseman & Goga or Bamba & Bryant, I think you could live with that. Also, don't know the current status of Matkovic, but he looked good in Birmingham last year.
Barnes (PF) and Huerter (SF) provide excellent veteran depth.
The first round picks are the ammunition to acquire a starting 5.
I'd be fine actually signing two stop-gap bigs and going into next year with a ton of shooting in the line up. If we are getting killed inside and it's costing us games, you adjust in season with a bigger trade and you'd have plenty of ammo to pull that off. I think several teams have demonstrated you can go with serviceable bigs and be successful if you have the 3-point shooting.
So, say you brought in Wiseman & Goga or Bamba & Bryant, I think you could live with that. Also, don't know the current status of Matkovic, but he looked good in Birmingham last year.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:36 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:You have a link to everything you hear from someone who has contacts within organization?
Link?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:37 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
I have a hard time believing he's a negative contract. He's easily worth 2 firsts.
Hes a 32 year old non all star guard making 33 mil and not expiring this year. CJ had a great year but most probably view that as a negative contract and likely would not give up 2 firsts.
Think about it we gave up 2 firsts for a dejounte- 26 year old all star on a great contract.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:37 pm to New City Champ
quote:
I'd be fine actually signing two stop-gap bigs and going into next year with a ton of shooting in the line up
This is the general consensus with our special fans.
Lets just surround Zion with 14 SG's, we got this.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:38 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Ohhh so this a "fan favorite" vs outsider conversation.
that plays into it, of course. It's not going to stop the team or my opinion from getting a better player there, but paying Tyus Jones 8x's more than Jose to take his place is stupid.
quote:
Yeah Jose is a better bball player than Tyus Jones. My bad.
I'd rather Jose than Tyus Jones, even if they made the same money. Jose is similar to Pritchard and McConnell and that's exactly what you want in a backup PG. And he actually makes a difference in winning when he comes in the game, unlike Tyus Jones and his nice points and assists stats.
quote:
Also Jose is on the last year of his contract, probably getting a 10mil or more deal next year from someone.
If he has a stellar year, then maybe, but he's likely to get similar deals that Pritchard and McConnell got, which was 4/$30 and 4/$33.
Pritchard just signed his and it's $7.5M annually on average.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:41 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
but paying Tyus Jones 8x's more than Jose to take his place is stupid.
Holy shite bro, you are really taking this argument path knowing Jose is on the last year of a contract?
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:42 pm to shel311
quote:
Same but if getting WCJ can also come with Isaac, I think i'd prefer that combo over Kessler.
I would 100% be down with that, but I don't know that the Magic would trade both WCJ and Isaac.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
I'd rather Jose than Tyus Jones, even if they made the same money.
Well agree to disagree here.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:43 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
but I don't know that the Magic would trade both WCJ and Isaac.
Yeah unless they get Kessler back because otherwise they have no centers.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:44 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
Think about it we gave up 2 firsts for a dejounte- 26 year old all star on a great contract.
We gave up more than 2 firsts. Dyson is worth at the bare minimum 1 first, if not 2, and that Lakers 1st has pretty high chance to be in the lottery.
2 firsts from a playoff team isn't that much, as i assume they would be the only teams willing to trade for him. Utah or Detroit wouldn't give up anythign to get him.
I don't have a problem with keeping CJ and he retire here, like what Conley is doing in Minny. Conly was making $34M at 33, then took a paycut own to $21M/yr for 3 years, and is now at $10M/yr for 2 years.
CJ would also have to come to the realization that he might not start, and/or not close games out.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:46 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:You think CJ, at 33 when the season starts is worth 2 1sts at over $63 million guaranteed the next 2 seasons? Not a chance. If so, he likely would be gone by now.
I have a hard time believing he's a negative contract. He's easily worth 2 firsts.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:46 pm to Dantheman504
quote:
Well agree to disagree here.
can you give me some analyitical evidence to prove Tyus Jones is clearly much better than Jose and warrants taking his place while making more money?
I gave you pertinent stats to back up my reasoning.
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