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re: KAT wants to be traded from the Wolves
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:35 pm to cgrand
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:35 pm to cgrand
Yeah but you could get a 3rd team involved. Something like
Pels - KAT, Waiters
Heat - Jrue, Moore
TWolves - Winslow, Herro, Leonard, Picks
I don't think KAT is where we need to spend our salary and resources, but you could work a 3 teamer like that where Jrue and Picks are the basic framework for a KAT deal.
Pels - KAT, Waiters
Heat - Jrue, Moore
TWolves - Winslow, Herro, Leonard, Picks
I don't think KAT is where we need to spend our salary and resources, but you could work a 3 teamer like that where Jrue and Picks are the basic framework for a KAT deal.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:37 pm to supe12sta12z
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Sounds like AD doesn’t it?
Sure does. But AD is a much much better player than KAT, especially when he doesn’t have to be the #1 guy.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:41 pm to TigerinATL
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Yeah but you could get a 3rd team involved. Something like Pels - KAT, Waiters Heat - Jrue, Moore TWolves - Winslow, Herro, Leonard, Picks I don't think KAT is where we need to spend our salary and resources, but you could work a 3 teamer like that where Jrue and Picks are the basic framework for a KAT deal.
If it was Jrue+minimal picks that would be worth doing. But that would be far less compensation than the deals that have set the precedent lately.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:42 pm to Soggymoss
quote:That is not even close to true. You have to consider age and contract in the discussion. In that situation, the Wolves would laugh if we called and offered Jrue for KAT.
Jrue alone would net a player like KAT
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:42 pm to TigerinATL
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but I doubt he's giving you that with Zion and Ingram as your offensive focal points. KAT would get Boshed if he came here and somehow I doubt he'd make the best of it and focus on anchoring the defense.
Why would KAT get Boshed?
He is the most skilled offensive big man in the game, maybe of all time at this point in his career.
His career numbers thus far: 22.5ppg on 53/39.6/83 splits. He's right behind Curry in career eFG% (10th) and TS% (6th all-time) and ahead of Durant. The other guys up there are dunkers (Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Dwight).
It's almost impossible to find a more efficient and versatile volume scorer. If anyone would get Boshed, it's Zion who could be a super Draymond.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:44 pm to Macintosh
Give them everything we got for AD except for BI and Hayes . Throw in jj , Frank , naw , and some pels future firsts.
Jrue + Zion + BI + KAT = finals next year
Jrue + Zion + BI + KAT = finals next year
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:45 pm to NOSHAU
Minnesota would because Jrue would not fit their timeline in a rebuild
But you trade Jrue to a contender that needs that final piece for a ransom, then send that over to Minnesota for KAT
But you trade Jrue to a contender that needs that final piece for a ransom, then send that over to Minnesota for KAT
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:46 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Sure does. But AD is a much much better player than KAT, especially when he doesn’t have to be the #1 guy.
AD is a better player. But AD had one year left on his deal and not four. If KAT was going into his last year his value would be more reasonable. I think GS would have to give up Russel+first overall+future firsts as their framework. And both Russel and first overall would have more value than anything we could send out.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:46 pm to corndeaux
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man in the game, maybe of all time at this point in his career.
His career numbers thus far: 22.5ppg on 53/39.6/83 splits. He's right behind Curry in career eFG% (10th) and TS% (6th all-time) and ahead of Durant.
So why does his team suck so much?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
You’re definitely underrating KAT there.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:50 pm to TeddyPadillac
I don't know, Teddy. Why has every team Brandon Ingam has been on sucked?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:51 pm to Soggymoss
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Jrue alone would net a player like KAT
Not even close.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:53 pm to supe12sta12z
I just don’t value an offensive 5 making max money in this NBA.
No one denies he’s a great offensive player, but I just don’t see how it’s possible to win a championship with him as your best player making $30M/yr.
No one denies he’s a great offensive player, but I just don’t see how it’s possible to win a championship with him as your best player making $30M/yr.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:56 pm to corndeaux
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I don't know, Teddy. Why has every team Brandon Ingam has been on sucked?
Much different scenarios for the two. Ask me that next year. I expect Ingram to take huge strides by next year and lead us to a winning record at a minimum every year going forward.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:59 pm to iwyLSUiwy
We are talking about a guy that has shown he cannot win in the league as a teams best player
GM's take notice of that kind of stuff
KAT will not bring an AD haul, much less a PG haul
GM's take notice of that kind of stuff
KAT will not bring an AD haul, much less a PG haul
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
lol. Predictable.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:59 pm to Soggymoss
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You're trading an allstar, and multiple young future all stars with a boatload of picks for him
Who are the multiple young future all stars we’re trading? Hayes? Lonzo? NAW? If even one of those becomes an all star we would all be thrilled.
I’m not saying we should trade for KAT. But we do not have multiple additional future all stars beyond Ingram and Zion. Our team is promising but this is overrating our depth.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
Not sure why we're getting worked up over this in the 1st place bc its just not going to happen. But
And Zion and Ingram combined are 10x better than Butler. So would that not translate into even better success? If Zion is what we expect him to be, you have 1a, 1b, and 1c guys on your team. He doesnt have to be the leader, just play really good basketball like you're already doing.
Whats the point? Bosh left Toronto to play with two other superstars and he won titles. If KAT leaves Minnesota to join two other potential superstars and has the same success, I know im fine with that.
Again, its not happening, but im just saying it could work. You have a guy that is #1 guy talent that wouldnt have to be your #1 guy.
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And his team sucks, again. His only winning season came when he had Butler.
And Zion and Ingram combined are 10x better than Butler. So would that not translate into even better success? If Zion is what we expect him to be, you have 1a, 1b, and 1c guys on your team. He doesnt have to be the leader, just play really good basketball like you're already doing.
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Think about what Chris Bosh did in Toronto. He led his team in his 4th year to 47 wins. His starters were Bargnani, TJ Ford, Juan Dixon, and Anthony Parker (whoever the hell that is).
Whats the point? Bosh left Toronto to play with two other superstars and he won titles. If KAT leaves Minnesota to join two other potential superstars and has the same success, I know im fine with that.
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I just have no desire to invest money into a 5 that is a supposed #1 guy.
Again, its not happening, but im just saying it could work. You have a guy that is #1 guy talent that wouldnt have to be your #1 guy.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:04 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Not sure why we're getting worked up over this in the 1st place bc its just not going to happen.
I was just thinking the same thing. This has been a funny thread.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 5:09 pm to Soggymoss
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We are talking about a guy that has shown he cannot win in the league as a teams best player
GM's take notice of that kind of stuff
KAT will not bring an AD haul, much less a PG haul
Well I guess we'll find out pretty soon. But I can easily see them pulling something similar. He has had pretty crappy teams too. The majority of his career, Andrew Wiggins has been the second best player on the team and Wiggins is pretty garbage. He can get buckets but sucks at pretty much everything else.
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