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re: Ingram extension completed

Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:56 pm to
I don't believe that Ingram has the escalator clause, Bam does though.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:56 pm to
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For some reason this is less than I was expecting in my head.



Same.


How is Tatum's 5 year's $195m?

Edit: Nevermind. Just caught up in the thread.
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by PTLSU
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2012
1597 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:57 pm to
That's $385,000 per game. In 3 hoops games he'll make as much as the NFL sack leader (Trey Hendrickson) made all season.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
escalator clauses, which Bam also got but it does not appear that BI did, yet.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
Rose Rule...he made 2+ All-Star teams so he gets 30% of cap versus 25%
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32467 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

How is Tatum's 5 year's $195m?


quote:

Back in 2011, the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement included a rule named after Derrick Rose. ... The rule allows a player finishing his rookie contract to make 30 percent of a team's salary cap — up from 25 percent — if he's twice been voted an All-Star starter, twice been voted All-NBA or won an MVP award.
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
421 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:58 pm to
BI isn’t eligible for that clause. All the other players, Fox, Tatum and Bam, have 1 year before their extensions kick in. The escalators are if the quality for the Rose rule escalators. BI’s contract is for the current season and he did not meet rose rule criteria this past season. His max is the most he can get.

Edit: frick I type slow
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115849 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 1:59 pm to
Yeah you are correct, I had forgotten about the Rose rule.

I mean...that works out pretty well for us
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:00 pm to
Bam and Tatum most likely will...Fox probably not
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:00 pm to
I didn't realize Tatum was All NBA this season.

I figured they were both All Stars and would get the same max.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32467 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

escalator clauses, which Bam also got but it does not appear that BI did, yet.
He can't get it, it only works for extensions that haven't started yet, Ingram's new deal starts this season.

Tatum's deal doesn't start until next season, same with Bam.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

He can't get it, it only works for extensions that haven't started yet, Ingram's new deal starts this season.

ingram's deal is not an extension. its is anew contract. had he signed it last year (he could have, pels did not offer it) it would be an extension

thats the difference
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32467 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

ingram's deal is not an extension. its is anew contract. had he signed it last year (he could have, pels did not offer it) it would be an extension

thats the difference
Was my comment not clear in that?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38790 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:07 pm to
yes, sorry
even the NBA reporters (woj) are calling it an extension LOL
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:08 pm to
I think they kind of word it that way when it's a RFA.
Posted by Jon1798
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
730 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:15 pm to
As a restricted free agent, he is under team control. We do actually offer him a contract in order to obtain that team control. While I certainly wouldn’t call it a “contract” extension, there are semantics involved here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110865 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

I have seen that about Bam and other player's maxes but not BI's yet.

Are these the ones related to make an All NBA team?

If so, that is not something we can just offer, that is something a player has to qualify for, correct? And would the max contract be the qualifier?

ETA: I see the Rose Rule discussion on page 2, but that seems to point to 2 All Stars and getting 30% of the cap instead of 25%. But what's the one that has the escalators for 1st/2nd/3rd team All NBA?
This post was edited on 11/24/20 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
421 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 2:34 pm to
The 1st through 3rd all nba could apply to Rose Rule, but you’re probably referring to the DPE or “supermax”. Essentially nba max contracts are based off of years of experience. So players coming off the rookie scale can sign for 25% of the cap, players with 7-9 years of experience can sign up to 30% and 10+ years 35%. Rose rule criteria, all nba etc. get a player on their second contract from 25% to 30%. DPE, all nba and being drafted by a team or traded while still on rookie contract, lets a player with 7-9 years of experience bump up from 30% to a 35% max.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 3:10 pm to
You'd have to be a fool, if you are talented enough to play any sport at a high level, to choose anything other than basketball.

Even the scrubs are multi-millionaires.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38790 posts
Posted on 11/24/20 at 3:16 pm to
there are 450 NBA players and the league has a 10% turnover every year. High school players have better odds of drawing 4 of a kind on a five card deal
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